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BlaqWhole · 08-05-2014, 03:49 PM

So my buddy has a 370Z. And it is currently in the shop getting a single turbo installed. It should be complete by next week. And he wants to race at the track. So far, his best time at the track with mods is a 13.4 on a 40 degree day. On an 80 degree day his best was a 13.83. On an 80 degree day, my best time was a 12.83 and my worst time was a 13.3. This is with all the mods in my sig. So he is thinking he will have over 600 hp to the wheels on a stock bottom end with an otherwise stock 370Z. And he thinks he will run 11s on a street tune and 10s on a race tune. I'm thinking he will have more like 450 - 500 hp to the wheels and will run a low to mid 12. And I'm thinking that for now he will have the advantage. But a cam, some ported heads, and a set of 3.91 gears in my SS should even things up a bit. In fact, I think I will be able to beat his turbo'd Z in the quarter mile while remaining NA without nitrous. What do you guys think?

alaskacamaro · 08-05-2014, 03:56 PM

Adding FI to those cars are what make them become killers. Don't think a full bolt on is going to beat one if driver skill is equal.

Hope he plans on doing more than just a turbo alone, otherwise he is not going to like have to constantly take it to the shop for repair work.

BlaqWhole · 08-05-2014, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by alaskacamaro

Adding FI to those cars are what make them become killers. Don't think a full bolt on is going to beat one if driver skill is equal.

Hope he plans on doing more than just a turbo alone, otherwise he is not going to like have to constantly take it to the shop for repair work.

I have searched Google over and over and I can't find any evidence that they can do 11s with a single turbo. I even looked on Youtube...I can't find anything, lol!!

OneSlowV · 08-05-2014, 04:20 PM

If he can hook and drive that Z will walk your SS.

BlaqWhole · 08-05-2014, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OneSlowV

If he can hook and drive that Z will walk your SS.

You mean once he gets the turbo right? Because he hooked and shifted perfect...he had a better 60 ft than me...and he still has not gone faster than my slowest time while NA, lol!!

62nalide · 08-05-2014, 04:25 PM

With a single turbo stock motor will not see 600hp lol it should run 11s if he has traction if not mid to low 12s

BlaqWhole · 08-05-2014, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 62nalide

With a single turbo stock motor will not see 600hp lol it should run 11s if he has traction if not mid to low 12s

Yea thats what I'm thinking. With our DA here in NJ around this time of year I'm thinking he'll be low 12s at best on street tires.

pgviper · 08-05-2014, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I have searched Google over and over and I can't find any evidence that they can do 11s with a single turbo. I even looked on Youtube...I can't find anything, lol!!

Don't search youtube, check out http://www.the370z.com/

You aren't giving us much to go off of. Remember he also weighs ~3300 pounds so for you to beat him, your going to need a good 50-75 rwhp more than he has given equal drivers. Weight will help you with launch but he will bring you in quickly unless you have that extra power. Find out some more details on the setup and what other equipment he is getting.

alaskacamaro · 08-05-2014, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I have searched Google over and over and I can't find any evidence that they can do 11s with a single turbo. I even looked on Youtube...I can't find anything, lol!!

He won't, if ALL he added was a turbo. Most I have seen completely redo the engine, add meth and brake, suspension upgrades. Saw my first 370Z NISMO this last weekend at a car show. Mod list was impressive (650whp is what the tuner claimed). He also added the line "done with a lot of patience" lol

BlaqWhole · 08-05-2014, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by alaskacamaro

He won't, if ALL he added was a turbo. Most I have seen completely redo the engine, add meth and brake, suspension upgrades. Saw my first 370Z NISMO this last weekend at a car show. Mod list was impressive (650whp is what the tuner claimed). He also added the line "done with a lot of patience" lol

He had a cold air intake, shorty headers, test pipes, full exhaust, custom tune, lighter flywheel, upgraded clutch, and a ported intake manifold. And with those mods he ran a 13.83 on an 80 degree night to my 12.83. With the turbo, he has to go back to the stock manifolds but he is keeping everything else. So he will have the single turbo, intake, lighter flywheel, upgraded clutch, tune (obviously), and test pipes. No meth injection, stock heads, stock cams, and stock bottom end.

pgviper · 08-06-2014, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

He had a cold air intake, shorty headers, test pipes, full exhaust, custom tune, lighter flywheel, upgraded clutch, and a ported intake manifold. And with those mods he ran a 13.83 on an 80 degree night to my 12.83. With the turbo, he has to go back to the stock manifolds but he is keeping everything else. So he will have the single turbo, intake, lighter flywheel, upgraded clutch, tune (obviously), and test pipes. No meth injection, stock heads, stock cams, and stock bottom end.

If he already has that much invested then i'm sure he isn't going to cheap out on a shit turbo build. In which case a moderate build (~500 rwhp) will be an issue for you. Weight is your enemy as with any 5th gen camaro.

ytown87 · 08-06-2014, 11:04 AM

I know a single turbo bolt onto a G35/350z puts them 475-490 at the wheels. With the little bump in power of the 3.7 engine he may be low 500's. 600 running on E85 and having some other work done but he's not gona see that number on just a single turbo. I cant see why high 11's wont be possible though.

OneSlowV · 08-06-2014, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

You mean once he gets the turbo right? Because he hooked and shifted perfect...he had a better 60 ft than me...and he still has not gone faster than my slowest time while NA, lol!!

Of course with turbo on his Z you will get walked lol.

Z/Camaro · 08-06-2014, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

He had a cold air intake, shorty headers, test pipes, full exhaust, custom tune, lighter flywheel, upgraded clutch, and a ported intake manifold. And with those mods he ran a 13.83 on an 80 degree night to my 12.83. With the turbo, he has to go back to the stock manifolds but he is keeping everything else. So he will have the single turbo, intake, lighter flywheel, upgraded clutch, tune (obviously), and test pipes. No meth injection, stock heads, stock cams, and stock bottom end.

How is a nearly full bolt Z going slower than a stock Z?

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BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	Single turbo 370Z vs Bolt-on SS... So my buddy has a 370Z. And it is currently in the shop getting a single turbo installed. It should be complete by next week. And he wants to race at the track. So far, his best time at the track with mods is a 13.4 on a 40 degree day. On an 80 degree day his best was a 13.83. On an 80 degree day, my best time was a 12.83 and my worst time was a 13.3. This is with all the mods in my sig. So he is thinking he will have over 600 hp to the wheels on a stock bottom end with an otherwise stock 370Z. And he thinks he will run 11s on a street tune and 10s on a race tune. I'm thinking he will have more like 450 - 500 hp to the wheels and will run a low to mid 12. And I'm thinking that for now he will have the advantage. But a cam, some ported heads, and a set of 3.91 gears in my SS should even things up a bit. In fact, I think I will be able to beat his turbo'd Z in the quarter mile while remaining NA without nitrous. What do you guys think?

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08-05-2014, 03:56 PM	#2
alaskacamaro Drives: 2012 2SS 45TH Anniversary Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kentucky Posts: 720	Adding FI to those cars are what make them become killers. Don't think a full bolt on is going to beat one if driver skill is equal. Hope he plans on doing more than just a turbo alone, otherwise he is not going to like have to constantly take it to the shop for repair work.