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Old 04-16-2013, 11:30 PM   #43
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Just wanted to point out that a computer analyst is not an Engineer.
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:35 PM   #44
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And it is possible I read your post and got the wrong vibe from it. Email/Forums don't properly convey intent or emotion.
No, no...I wasn't implying you were being a douche, just explaining the dealer mindset. I'd be a douche, too!
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:55 AM   #45
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Just wanted to point out that a computer analyst is not an Engineer.
That depends on the definition. Is a software engineer not an engineer either? The role of a computer analyst may very well involve engineering software.
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:37 AM   #46
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I thought Sheldon Cooper didnt drive? Sounds like he does now.......
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:46 AM   #47
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Glad that the dealer for my current car is not easily freaked out. I recently had a bit of trouble with my car and so I did a bunch of stuff to it that was due anyway. I changed the spark plugs, replaced the battery, cleaned the air filter, cleaned the TB, tested the MAF, and a few other things. When I detailed everything I had done and the results to my service manager his only reply was, "You do a lot more than most people."

I also find that when I let guys know I can do a bit for myself that I am treated a bit more seriously and will walk when I am not.
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Old 04-17-2013, 12:04 PM   #48
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That depends on the definition. Is a software engineer not an engineer either? The role of a computer analyst may very well involve engineering software.
I engineer infrastructure solutions and resolve issues with that infrastructure if they come up (which is where the analyst part comes in).

So yes.... in my world, you can be both, and often must.
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Old 04-17-2013, 12:05 PM   #49
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I thought Sheldon Cooper didnt drive? Sounds like he does now.......
lol.......

My favorite show in fact!

And you aren't the first to call me "sheldon"..
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Old 04-17-2013, 12:09 PM   #50
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I would not be happy if they just took your list and worked it. just because you have a symptom and there is an issue with that same symptom with a TSP, does not mean you have the problem that the TSB fixes.

I would hope the dealership has at least semi profession mechanics, technicians or what ever the thin skinned folks in the department are calling themselves today, who will do the proper troubleshooting to verify that the symptoms are are from the problems provided TSB's and not something else that is causing similar issues.

Personally, I would of turned the car in, waited to see what they stated, and only then provided the TSB's if the problem's weren't fixed.
Neither would I. I would also hope that they do their own troubleshooting. I was just including my research in the hopes it would help, not to confuse or to say that my opinion is the correct one.
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:08 PM   #51
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I thought Sheldon Cooper didnt drive? Sounds like he does now.......
Awesome!! I was thinking the same thing! No offense to the OP. The world needs functional CDO'ers (notice I used your version). Great thread! Very entertaining and I'll be following to see what the end result is...P.S. stay off euclid ave. LOL
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:11 PM   #52
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Nice! Where did you get access to the TSB's? I love it!!!
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Old 04-17-2013, 11:11 PM   #53
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:30 PM   #54
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Many times you are better off saying this is the problem and have the tech figure it out and fix it rather than try to diagnose it yourself.
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:48 PM   #55
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Many times you are better off saying this is the problem and have the tech figure it out and fix it rather than try to diagnose it yourself.
Sometimes the problem is so obvious that a caveman could diagnose it.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:01 PM   #56
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Many times you are better off saying this is the problem and have the tech figure it out and fix it rather than try to diagnose it yourself.
This is the approach I usually take however, what happens more times than not is I get the "Unable to duplicate at this time". And since I usually have to pick up my car late in the day when the techs have already gone home I rarely get the opportunity to even try to explain the problem further.


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