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DeathChill · 04-08-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

Some perspectives --

First - -the Camaro team isn't "resting on their laurels" -- more about that in a minute....

Many
Engines --

Let's not forget-- as many people have mentioned before this post - that the car is still in its first year. Yes - the competition isn't sitting still.......

BUT..........................

............don't lose sight of the fact that the Mustang is not only Ford's "Camaro" - it's also their "Corvette" --

Put another way - we COULD drop the Corvette and concentrate on Camaro only -- and if we did, America (and Canada) should take the entire team out behind the woodshed and shoot us!

Arguably, we're coming out of the worst two years that GM has ever had...not everything we wanted to happen happened because of that........but to assume we're 'done' with Camaro - well -- trust me - we aren't! There are many things being worked on for the future.......(we ARE listening.....) But some things don't happen overnight -especially when you are working on a new Corvette..... (and I can't talk about it -- so don't ask....)

So -- if you're a "Camaro-only" enthusiast - you might be disappointed. If, however, you are a "Chevy" enthusiast - you know that our performance cars now start out at 312hp -- and go up way past 600hp in the mighty ZR1 - and there are lots of choices from the bottom to the top........

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So are these all of the changes for 2011? Nothing for V8's besides the 2SS getting HUD?

I am not against HUD, but some gears and suspension upgrades were probably 2x more important for a performance car...

EDIT: Want to note that I am not trying to be rude, just asking a question that is important to me.

snowtrill · 04-08-2010, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

Some perspectives --

Thanks for listening.......

........thanks for your passion.........

...............thanks for your enthusiasm --

.............and once again: thank you for 'keepin' the faith'

Thank you - A little sanity 500+ posts in is good.

Sax1031 · 04-08-2010, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathChill

So are these all of the changes for 2011? Nothing for V8's besides the 2SS getting HUD?

I am not against HUD, but some gears and suspension upgrades were probably 2x more important for a performance car...

DeathChill I think people on here, not saying you specifically, really fail to realize that gears and suspension upgrades are not as easy as just slapping parts on a car. For a factory car that is going to warranty this stuff it takes time to research, develop, test, certify, and implement these changes.

Revo1 · 04-08-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sax1031

DeathChill I think people on here, not saying you specifically, really fail to realize that gears and suspension upgrades are not as easy as just slapping parts on a car. For a factory car that is going to warranty this stuff it takes time to research, develop, test, certify, and implement these changes.

Unfair · 04-08-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

Off topic, but thats not his car and he probably doesnt know the name of the color.

Obsession: by whiskey tango foxtrot.

You don't know anything about me especially in real life mr. banned troll

LOL

Angrybird 12 · 04-08-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

Uh you cant buy a dinosaur.

Well you have a mustang... close enough...

Sorry but that was sooooo easy...

DeathChill · 04-08-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sax1031

DeathChill I think people on here, not saying you specifically, really fail to realize that gears and suspension upgrades are not as easy as just slapping parts on a car. For a factory car that is going to warranty this stuff it takes time to research, develop, test, certify, and implement these changes.

I definitely understand that, but I'm sure they've known since the beginning about the suspension issues and could have worked on it starting a year ago. Regardless, I know they are working hard, it's just a bit upsetting that there's no meaningful improvement for the 2011 year: Synergy Green and HUD. The v6 hasn't changed.

Sax1031 · 04-08-2010, 07:32 PM

The suspension on the Camaro is not bad by any means.

I am sure it looks that way with the stang but ford has worked on the 2011 suspension for 5 years now. They first started offering a track pack after 5 years of the new stang. I am sure GM will be able to do it in less than that.

levi1922 · 04-08-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathChill

I definitely understand that, but I'm sure they've known since the beginning about the suspension issues and could have worked on it starting a year ago. Regardless, I know they are working hard, it's just a bit upsetting that there's no meaningful improvement for the 2011 year: Synergy Green and HUD. The v6 hasn't changed.

The car has been out for about 13 months. There are several cars out there that get nothing new for its second model year. The difference is most cars dont have such a devoted following. I do understand where you are coming from though. the only advice i can give is patients and faith.

00stsz28 · 04-08-2010, 07:38 PM

the car is only getting better so I'm happy

Sevn86 · 04-08-2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JB @ C and L Machine

THATS IT????

I waited for nothing!!!

You only waited for a price increase...you know those extra features wont be free...lol

dragon22 · 04-08-2010, 07:44 PM

If you have been around for a number of years like some of us have been, you will realize that the suspension and handling on the Camaro is remarkable. Try to get a '69 to handle the way this does...or a '78...'90?

Is there room for improvement? Sure there is. Does the average driver need the improvements? I highly doubt it.

GM did their best to make these cars very affordable for Joe Public. And I think they did a great job of it.

Worried about suspension and handling? There are aftermarkets out there a person can deal with to obtain the results they feel they desire or need.

This car is by no means a tank. I mean, it is what...300lbs heavier than the Mustang? That is not a lot. And remember, it is lighter than the Challenger.

But for GM to start making changes to suspension and such would be crazy. The price would go up. There would be warranties to worry about. And really...does Joe Public need tighter suspension to enjoy this car on the public roadways?

Sax1031 · 04-08-2010, 07:49 PM

Most people couldn't drive these cars to their limits anyways.

dragon22 · 04-08-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sax1031

Most people couldn't drive these cars to their limits anyways.

Precisely. most people couldn't drive these cars to their limits the way they are built now!

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04-08-2010, 07:32 PM	#582
Sax1031 Drives: 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Elgin,SC Posts: 2,707	The suspension on the Camaro is not bad by any means. I am sure it looks that way with the stang but ford has worked on the 2011 suspension for 5 years now. They first started offering a track pack after 5 years of the new stang. I am sure GM will be able to do it in less than that.

04-08-2010, 07:38 PM	#584
00stsz28 Drives: 00 z28 m6 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Independence Posts: 2	the car is only getting better so I'm happy

04-08-2010, 07:44 PM	#586
dragon22 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS SIM Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 1,697 View My Garage	If you have been around for a number of years like some of us have been, you will realize that the suspension and handling on the Camaro is remarkable. Try to get a '69 to handle the way this does...or a '78...'90? Is there room for improvement? Sure there is. Does the average driver need the improvements? I highly doubt it. GM did their best to make these cars very affordable for Joe Public. And I think they did a great job of it. Worried about suspension and handling? There are aftermarkets out there a person can deal with to obtain the results they feel they desire or need. This car is by no means a tank. I mean, it is what...300lbs heavier than the Mustang? That is not a lot. And remember, it is lighter than the Challenger. But for GM to start making changes to suspension and such would be crazy. The price would go up. There would be warranties to worry about. And really...does Joe Public need tighter suspension to enjoy this car on the public roadways?

04-08-2010, 07:49 PM	#587
Sax1031 Drives: 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Elgin,SC Posts: 2,707	Most people couldn't drive these cars to their limits anyways.