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JCunningham · 03-09-2015, 04:00 AM

This is the oem cam with 9000 miles on it. are these lines normal. i cant feel them with my fingernail. there on 2 lobes

halo8hkk · 03-09-2015, 09:13 AM

none of my cams have come out looking like that.

GONIF · 03-09-2015, 11:52 AM

I am no expert ,but with only 9000 miles and it being a stock roller cam that looks strange. What kind of oil are you using ? Are you warming the car up to temp B4 romping on it ?

Dimitrim · 03-09-2015, 11:59 AM

That not oil related wear. You have some bad lifters causing that.

Russell James · 03-09-2015, 01:31 PM

Looks like a chip from something got stuck under the roller. Does the roller have a flat spot.

This is why race blocks and heads get deburred. You don't want any tiny casting chips off the edges falling down on the cam.

Ivan @ Southwest Speed · 03-09-2015, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell James

Looks like a chip from something got stuck under the roller. Does the roller have a flat spot.

This is why race blocks and heads get deburred. You don't want any tiny casting chips off the edges falling down on the cam.

THIS.

You have some debris in there. If it were a spun lifter it would have torn the camshaft up something fierce.

Get her all cleaned up, swap that stick, and change the oil and filter a couple times.

Good luck sir!
Ivan @ Southwest Speed

JCunningham · 03-09-2015, 03:19 PM

this is my stock cam that i pulled out befor i put the Night Fury cam in. GM installed this cam. I will be pulling the nf and changinging lifters.inspecting cam bearings.

christianchevell · 03-09-2015, 07:08 PM

Here is a pic of my cam after most likely 5-8 k stock.... I have been cammed since march of 2014 and have about 14.5-15k on my car, the stock cam was in from nov 2012 to mar 2014 and I drive about 5k a year usually..( have made some long road trips and love riding around now....

So no it is not normal (and this pic the cam still has some oil on it), I know you most likely had a problem before you swapped cams with those lines it did not help from most likely foreign objects in oil. I know this has to have Pissed you off, I would gladly give you my stock cam for free J . Good luck, and don't give up on the driven racing oil, TSP now recommends it along with a lot of others, and my cam is still going strong along with my stock oil pump and stock chain, and I know its more radical than the night fury, I use .675 springs and have .639/.623 with 235/239 and 112 lsa.

JCunningham · 03-09-2015, 09:14 PM

Kip from cam motion sent me a private message on here and I talked to him on the phone today about it. He thinks it was a problem with the junk in the stock cam. He recommended I change the lifter which i have ordered. LS7 lifters and ARP head bolts. GM gaskets. He also said if cam bearing were bad id know it by now.

Guinness2 · 03-10-2015, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by christianchevell

Here is a pic of my cam after most likely 5-8 k stock.... I have been cammed since march of 2014 and have about 14.5-15k on my car, the stock cam was in from nov 2012 to mar 2014 and I drive about 5k a year usually..( have made some long road trips and love riding around now....

So no it is not normal (and this pic the cam still has some oil on it), I know you most likely had a problem before you swapped cams with those lines it did not help from most likely foreign objects in oil. I know this has to have Pissed you off, I would gladly give you my stock cam for free J . Good luck, and don't give up on the driven racing oil, TSP now recommends it along with a lot of others, and my cam is still going strong along with my stock oil pump and stock chain, and I know its more radical than the night fury, I use .675 springs and have .639/.623 with 235/239 and 112 lsa.

I'm not trying to hijack this thread but you are making 500 RWHP cam only on a Mustang dyno ?

christianchevell · 03-10-2015, 06:57 PM

I have dual mode. Electric power steering. Stainless power headers with HFC, also a vmax and under drive pulley with CAI and scoop and a .639/.623 lift cam..... and the best tuner I could find who custom mapped my fuel curve and dyno tuned the car. And to put the thread back on course; Hey J: I would get a camera to look in your engine to inspect your bearings...they are easy to rent or even buy now to look inside a engine and inspect...like harbor freight may have one even to check the cam bearings just for giggles, they are just like a long flexible tube.. Good luck! Having a engine eat up the cam from deterioration should in effect send metal into the oil and can damage bearing surfaces amongst other things.

JCunningham · 03-10-2015, 07:58 PM

the good thing is i never found any metal in the oil and the blackstone report shows everythings normal. So I just recieved everything to do the lifters too. so cam and lifters. I have a mirror i can stick in there but ill look into renting a camera. I dont like returning things. maybe my brother could use a $275 rigid camera.

christianchevell · 03-12-2015, 06:07 PM

good luck J you deserve some that's for sure

z3R0fo01 · 03-13-2015, 11:49 PM

Yeah good luck man!

03-09-2015, 09:13 AM	#2
halo8hkk Drives: 2000 Z28. 2010 1SS IMB. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,081	none of my cams have come out looking like that. __________________ 1990 RS = First Car -SOLD 2000 Z28 = SOLD 2010 1SS/RS = Mysstique Whipple Supercharger Dyno= 618hp 555tq at the wheels IMB Silver Stripes VIN#44025 Born: 9/9/09 Delivered: 9/28/09

03-09-2015, 11:52 AM	#3
GONIF Drives: 73 VETTE ,, 05 2500hd diesel,14 1LE Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The Left lane PHOENIX AZ Posts: 2,626	I am no expert ,but with only 9000 miles and it being a stock roller cam that looks strange. What kind of oil are you using ? Are you warming the car up to temp B4 romping on it ? __________________ OLD GUY FLYING FAST AND LOW

03-09-2015, 03:19 PM	#7
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	this is my stock cam that i pulled out befor i put the Night Fury cam in. GM installed this cam. I will be pulling the nf and changinging lifters.inspecting cam bearings. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

03-09-2015, 07:08 PM	#8
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Manual,DM exhaust,CRT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,587 View My Garage	Here is a pic of my cam after most likely 5-8 k stock.... I have been cammed since march of 2014 and have about 14.5-15k on my car, the stock cam was in from nov 2012 to mar 2014 and I drive about 5k a year usually..( have made some long road trips and love riding around now.... So no it is not normal (and this pic the cam still has some oil on it), I know you most likely had a problem before you swapped cams with those lines it did not help from most likely foreign objects in oil. I know this has to have Pissed you off, I would gladly give you my stock cam for free J . Good luck, and don't give up on the driven racing oil, TSP now recommends it along with a lot of others, and my cam is still going strong along with my stock oil pump and stock chain, and I know its more radical than the night fury, I use .675 springs and have .639/.623 with 235/239 and 112 lsa. __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data, Carbon, Nav, RotoFab Dry CAI, Elite x2, Borla ATK, Driveshaft shop

03-09-2015, 09:14 PM	#9
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	Kip from cam motion sent me a private message on here and I talked to him on the phone today about it. He thinks it was a problem with the junk in the stock cam. He recommended I change the lifter which i have ordered. LS7 lifters and ARP head bolts. GM gaskets. He also said if cam bearing were bad id know it by now. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

03-09-2015, 11:59 AM	#4
Dimitrim Dimitri Drives: 68 GTO 455 Ram Air; 2014 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Novato, California Posts: 602 View My Garage	That not oil related wear. You have some bad lifters causing that.

03-09-2015, 01:31 PM	#5
Russell James Drives: '15 SS 1LE, '69 Z28 drag car Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mich Posts: 4,482	Looks like a chip from something got stuck under the roller. Does the roller have a flat spot. This is why race blocks and heads get deburred. You don't want any tiny casting chips off the edges falling down on the cam.

03-10-2015, 06:57 PM	#11
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Manual,DM exhaust,CRT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,587 View My Garage	I have dual mode. Electric power steering. Stainless power headers with HFC, also a vmax and under drive pulley with CAI and scoop and a .639/.623 lift cam..... and the best tuner I could find who custom mapped my fuel curve and dyno tuned the car. And to put the thread back on course; Hey J: I would get a camera to look in your engine to inspect your bearings...they are easy to rent or even buy now to look inside a engine and inspect...like harbor freight may have one even to check the cam bearings just for giggles, they are just like a long flexible tube.. Good luck! Having a engine eat up the cam from deterioration should in effect send metal into the oil and can damage bearing surfaces amongst other things. __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data, Carbon, Nav, RotoFab Dry CAI, Elite x2, Borla ATK, Driveshaft shop

03-10-2015, 07:58 PM	#12
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	the good thing is i never found any metal in the oil and the blackstone report shows everythings normal. So I just recieved everything to do the lifters too. so cam and lifters. I have a mirror i can stick in there but ill look into renting a camera. I dont like returning things. maybe my brother could use a $275 rigid camera. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

03-12-2015, 06:07 PM	#13
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2013 2SS/RS Manual,DM exhaust,CRT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,587 View My Garage	good luck J you deserve some that's for sure __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data, Carbon, Nav, RotoFab Dry CAI, Elite x2, Borla ATK, Driveshaft shop

03-13-2015, 11:49 PM	#14
z3R0fo01 Drives: 2014 1SS RS 1LE tvs2300 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: MD Posts: 420	Yeah good luck man! __________________ SLP TVS 2300 Kooks 1 7/8" Rotofab intake NPP JRE tuned