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05-07-2015, 09:08 PM
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Drives: 2011 camaro 2ss/rs ls3 Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: long island NY
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AGP twin turbo kit vs cam ecs kit down the road??
Debating adding either a agp turbo kit to my car vs doing a cam now and a ecs kit a few months after that. This wouldn't be my first cammed car so drive ability wouldn't be an issue and the car is not my dd. If you had to do it all over again which route would you have gone???
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05-07-2015, 09:26 PM
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Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010
Location: KCMO
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I went from a Ysi to an AGP kit. The AGP with no other mods will give the power the ECS + cam will and the AGP kit has much more room to grow.
You'll be money ahead in the long run if you just pony up the money for the AGP kit from the beginning. Regardless of which direction you go, look at the big picture and factor in fuel system and suspension which you'll need either way in the long run. What are your power goals? |
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05-07-2015, 09:41 PM
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Drives: 2011 camaro 2ss/rs ls3 Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: long island NY
Posts: 351
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right now i have basic bolt ons for power intake pfadt headers (which if i go agp i will be selling) catback (sound) and tune. I already have upgraded most of my suspension handling and stiffness wise with bmr fe4 zl1 front and rear sway conversion, bmr trailing arms and toe rods, pfadt lowering springs, solid sub frame mounts, uper control arm bushings, diff bushings. Down the road with the power obviously i would do axles ( when they break ) upgrade clutch and so on.
Power goals would be low to mid 600's and that would be on e85 which i would have no problem running and i would rather run vs dealing with meth. Would be open to cam possibly down the road or when the motor goes poof! probably build a whole new engine set up from that point on. |
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05-07-2015, 09:51 PM
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Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010
Location: KCMO
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Sell the headers and go AGP. Power is addictive and very soon, 600whp won't be enough and you'll want more. It happens to all of us.
The base AGP kit will easily make 600+whp on an otherwise stock engine. |
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05-07-2015, 09:57 PM
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Drives: 2012 Camaro 2ss 45th M6 Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Fayetteville, Ar
Posts: 410
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Made 960hp with ecs and 1026 with AGP. Although only 60hp different, the AGP is a ton faster. Power comes in 2,000+ rpms faster and also gained 250ft/lbs of torque with AGP Plus.. Why work your car harder to turn a belt (blower) to make the same power or less power... |
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05-08-2015, 08:23 AM
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USAF retired! Thank God!
Drives: 2011 1SS, 1LT red,1LT/RS SGM 98Z28 Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: North Texas
Posts: 2,799
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Had a D1SC and 758whp. Was just about maxed out. Now TT, custom built with PT6766 BB turbos.
GO AGP!!! Without a doubt
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05-08-2015, 08:28 AM
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Drives: 2010 2SS LS3, 2013 duramax Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Dover, De
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Im happy with my ecs kit, look in my sig for mods and the time it ran, but if the agp kit was out when i bought the ecs i probably would of had one right now. Installed a agp tt kit on my cousins car and it is nice.
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ECS Ysi-B, cam, Tsp 2" longtubes, Squash dual pumps, Id1300s, meth, 4L80e, FTI 3600, ZL1 3.73 diff, BMR suspension, 15" conversion, weld rts mt 275 et street R. 9.6@147mph
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05-08-2015, 08:37 AM
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 Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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I wish agp and dealers would post more build threads. Kevin@agp is cranking out a car a week from bone stock to 700-810rwhp. Cpr just did a 416 forged motor, agp kit, 1140rwhp or so on pretty low boost. Shops are cranking out 700-800 stock motor builds all the time and with forged internals 1000-1200.
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05-08-2015, 08:44 AM
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Drives: 2010 Camaro Auto Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Fl
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?????????? http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21013
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05-08-2015, 10:59 AM
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Drives: Silver 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: TN
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ADM built 417, 2.9L Whipple with 3.250 pulley, ADM ported and polished LSA heads,ADM stage3 cam,ADM LSA belt drive system,ADM CAI race scoop, ADM dual fuel pumps, ID 850's, BMR full suspension, Gforce 9 inch kit with 3.5 inch driveshaft, Street Slayer twin carbon clutch, Lingenfelter oil seperator. Tuned by built by ADM Performance, 763rwhp,705rwtq |
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05-08-2015, 11:02 AM
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Drives: 2012 Camaro 2ss 45th M6 Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Fayetteville, Ar
Posts: 410
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05-08-2015, 11:40 AM
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Too much is never enough!
Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Toledo,OH
Posts: 4,149
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AGP end of thread.
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AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq
Build thread http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855 |
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05-08-2015, 08:57 PM
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Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 5,712
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05-08-2015, 10:54 PM
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Drives: '11 Camaro Supercharged Convertible Join Date: May 2014
Location: NJ
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2011 Triple Black SS convertible, LSX 427, PRC 260cc heads, Callies Ultra Billet Rods, Wiseco -20 cc piston, Callies Dragon Slayer crank, Strange Dana 60 rear w/3.73 gear ratio and driveshaft, Pfadt coilovers, Pfadt sway bars, Pfadt trailing arms, Pfadt tie rods, Pfadt subframe bushings, Vortech YSi with wastegate and twin BOV, Haltech ECU, Mantic 9000 Twin Clutch, ALKY control meth system with dual nozzle, Squash twin fuel pumps, ACS T3 ports, VIS Terminator Hood, Seibon ZL style lip.
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