Remote Auto Start on Manual transmission? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Treadstone · 06-21-2009, 06:23 PM

Anyone looking at adding this mod? Would be helpful to me due to the HOT weather down here.

But I'm wondering why GM doesn't offer it from the factory?

Looking at this unit
http://autostartusa.com/Products/Pro...ProductID=4201

Road_Warrior85 · 06-21-2009, 06:40 PM

It is actually kinda simple... they CANT offer it from the factory.

What happens to a manual shift car when you crank the motor if it is in gear and you dont press the clutch???????

An accident happens.

Now you may think, "thats easy, just park it in neutral with the parking brake on"........ but how many people are too slow to think of that.... or just too forgetfull to remember that?????

I would love to have an auto start on my car... AC in the summer, Heat in the winter.... and COOL when you wanna show off.... but I dont know if I want to pursue an aftermarket kit or not

joepitt · 06-21-2009, 06:41 PM

I don't know how it would work without the tranny in neutral. I'm sure the corporate lawyers have all kinds of safety related legal concerns about leaving a car in neutral and parked. What if the parking brake failed, the car rolled and killed someone? Big lawsuit for GM I'm sure.

WYcamaro · 06-21-2009, 06:45 PM

Python is also offering Remote starts with a manual option.

http://www.pythoncarsecurity.com/pro...?ProductID=617

SIK07GTSTANG · 06-21-2009, 07:20 PM

As long as powertrain/transmission warranties exist, there will never be a remote start for a manual transmission.

jelly2m8 · 06-21-2009, 07:39 PM

I have no idea why manufactures won't simply install a switch into the manual transmission/axle to detect when the shifter is in the neutral position.

Most remote starter makers do make a manual gearbox version that incorporates park brake, brake pedal and door pin inputs to ensure you have the car in neutral gear and the car locked before it will enable the remote start.

The sequence for those is kind of a pain in the ass at first to set and get used to, but they work fine.

Example of one brand I use.

Engine running. Press and hold brake pedal and activate park brake. Release brakes pedal.
Hold start button on remote for 2 seconds untill the dash lights flash 5 times.

Turn engine off and remove key. ( engine stays running ). Open door and exit vehicle. Close door. Hold lock button and doors lock and engine will shut off. 2 flashes from park lights.

Basicially the procedure makes you ensure the car is in neutral and with the park brake on before you exit the car.

If you unlock, or open the door or release the park brake the remote starter automaticially disables.

jelly2m8 · 06-21-2009, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIK07GTSTANG

As long as powertrain/transmission warranties exist, there will never be a remote start for a manual transmission.

Wrong. Remote starter companies offer remote starters for manuals.

I can personally verify at least 8 manual vehicles with a remote starter and a valid powertrain warranty.

ahart04 · 06-21-2009, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior85

It is actually kinda simple... they CANT offer it from the factory.

What happens to a manual shift car when you crank the motor if it is in gear and you dont press the clutch???????

An accident happens.

Now you may think, "thats easy, just park it in neutral with the parking brake on"........ but how many people are too slow to think of that.... or just too forgetfull to remember that?????

I would love to have an auto start on my car... AC in the summer, Heat in the winter.... and COOL when you wanna show off.... but I dont know if I want to pursue an aftermarket kit or not

I would like to get one too, this guy said everything I would have...I hope we can get a thread going about different brands, prices, etc...

OHIOSS · 06-21-2009, 08:39 PM

My 2SS w/ 6 speed will not start without the clutch pedal pushed all the way in. You can't start it in neutral even with the emergency brake on without pushing the clutch in. You would have to find a way to override this safety feature.

Russ

WYcamaro · 06-21-2009, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ Hunsaker

My 2SS w/ 6 speed will not start without the clutch pedal pushed all the way in. You can't start it in neutral even with the emergency brake on without pushing the clutch in. You would have to find a way to override this safety feature.

Russ

Installers have been working around that for awhile, they just bypass that. It used to be hard to find an installer that would work with manual tranny's, they had to make their own clutch bypasses and neutral switches, but as everything became electronic more aftermarket company's started offering it for manuals.

Vash · 06-21-2009, 09:43 PM

This is why...

Treadstone · 06-21-2009, 10:06 PM

If you have it installed right it won't do that unless it's in neutral. They have safety features for it.

shockandawe · 06-21-2009, 11:16 PM

Get the auto, it's much faster then the manual,not to mention the remote start! Also,it sucks shifting in stop n go traffic.

Rogue Leader · 06-21-2009, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shockandawe

Get the auto, it's much faster then the manual,not to mention the remote start! Also,it sucks shifting in stop n go traffic.

no offense, lame response, these are getting ridiculous. NOT faster at all.... and it doesn't suck shifting in stop-n-go that much.

06-21-2009, 06:23 PM	#1
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06-21-2009, 06:40 PM	#2
Road_Warrior85 Drives: IBM 2SSRS, 12 Jeep Wrangler 4door Join Date: May 2009 Location: Eastern NC/South AL Posts: 776	It is actually kinda simple... they CANT offer it from the factory. What happens to a manual shift car when you crank the motor if it is in gear and you dont press the clutch??????? An accident happens. Now you may think, "thats easy, just park it in neutral with the parking brake on"........ but how many people are too slow to think of that.... or just too forgetfull to remember that????? I would love to have an auto start on my car... AC in the summer, Heat in the winter.... and COOL when you wanna show off.... but I dont know if I want to pursue an aftermarket kit or not __________________

06-21-2009, 06:41 PM	#3
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06-21-2009, 10:06 PM	#12
Treadstone Drives: Z51 BABY! Join Date: May 2009 Location: LSFREE~!!!!! Posts: 787	If you have it installed right it won't do that unless it's in neutral. They have safety features for it. __________________

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WYcamaro Drives: in reverse Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: I'm Lost.... Posts: 195	Python is also offering Remote starts with a manual option. http://www.pythoncarsecurity.com/pro...?ProductID=617

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SIK07GTSTANG Team Fordpower Drives: 2007 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Purcellville, VA Posts: 344 View My Garage	As long as powertrain/transmission warranties exist, there will never be a remote start for a manual transmission.

06-21-2009, 07:39 PM	#6
jelly2m8 Drives: GM 2 seaters Join Date: May 2009 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 93	I have no idea why manufactures won't simply install a switch into the manual transmission/axle to detect when the shifter is in the neutral position. Most remote starter makers do make a manual gearbox version that incorporates park brake, brake pedal and door pin inputs to ensure you have the car in neutral gear and the car locked before it will enable the remote start. The sequence for those is kind of a pain in the ass at first to set and get used to, but they work fine. Example of one brand I use. Engine running. Press and hold brake pedal and activate park brake. Release brakes pedal. Hold start button on remote for 2 seconds untill the dash lights flash 5 times. Turn engine off and remove key. ( engine stays running ). Open door and exit vehicle. Close door. Hold lock button and doors lock and engine will shut off. 2 flashes from park lights. Basicially the procedure makes you ensure the car is in neutral and with the park brake on before you exit the car. If you unlock, or open the door or release the park brake the remote starter automaticially disables.

06-21-2009, 08:39 PM	#9
OHIOSS Russ Drives: Yukon Denali, Charger, CamaroSS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,811	My 2SS w/ 6 speed will not start without the clutch pedal pushed all the way in. You can't start it in neutral even with the emergency brake on without pushing the clutch in. You would have to find a way to override this safety feature. Russ

06-21-2009, 09:43 PM	#11
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,104	This is why...

06-21-2009, 11:16 PM	#13
shockandawe Drives: 2014 Z51 Corvette Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,349	Get the auto, it's much faster then the manual,not to mention the remote start! Also,it sucks shifting in stop n go traffic.