[macwest]

Originally Posted by Raven87

Did you have the red key? New car? And did launch like you would your own car?

The HC does indeed have a traction issue on stock rubber but it requires a deft touch to launch it. And yes, it is a heavyweight.

Used 8K on car. They gave me the red key. The car had a 6 speed manual transmission. On launch no traction. definitely needs work. from 40 getting on freeway not bad but slower then my camaro. I tested in same area I drive all the time so it was a good comparison to what I usually get in MPH camaro at full throttle.

Originally Posted by Heavymetal454

:Perhaps we will see the Cat dethroned. Then people will be saying ZL1 vs Everyone! That's the direction I'm going.

The 6th gen is a different car. The ZL1 will never dethrone the Hellcat as old school brutal muscle car. The ZL1 is more of a next gen sports car. I expect the ZL1 to be faster and handle better but if you are buying a Hellcat You are buying it for old school muscle car fun and that it is. The best way I can compare the hell cat and Scat pack is Scat pack is like ordering the AAR cuda in 1970 and Hell cat was like ordering the 426 Hemi cuda. The hemi cuda never handled well too much front weight same is true with Hellcat. Dodge over engineered the motor adding a bunch of weight. Not sayng Scat pack initially is super light but the 300 extra pounds teh hell cat weighs up front makes a difference in handling.

[Heavymetal454]

Quote: The 6th gen is a different car. The ZL1 will never dethrone the Hellcat as old school brutal muscle car. The ZL1 is more of a next gen sports car. I expect the ZL1 to be faster and handle better but if you are buying a Hellcat You are buying it for old school muscle car fun and that it is.

By dethrone I'm saying the ZL1 could very well have the Cat in the quarter. Better launch control and a good driver could put the Cat on the trailer. It will be interesting to see some heads up racing once the Z hits the streets though we may have to wait till next spring here as the car is due to arrive in the fall. Anybody in FL wanna beat a Cat and upload a video? Inquiring minds want to know.

[macwest]

Originally Posted by Heavymetal454

The 6th gen is a different car. The ZL1 will never dethrone the Hellcat as old school brutal muscle car. The ZL1 is more of a next gen sports car. I expect the ZL1 to be faster and handle better but if you are buying a Hellcat You are buying it for old school muscle car fun and that it is.

By dethrone I'm saying the ZL1 could very well have the Cat in the quarter. Better launch control and a good driver could put the Cat on the trailer. It will be interesting to see some heads up racing once the Z hits the streets though we may have to wait till next spring here as the car is due to arrive in the fall. Anybody in FL wanna beat a Cat and upload a video? Inquiring minds want to know.

I agree power to weight is in zl1's favor. Also traction. However, the autos of both will have an advantage over both stick versions. With 8 and 10 speed autos hard to compete with an manual in the 1/4 mile

[396ssrat]

At this point the performance of the ZL1 is no more than speculation. Saw a HC with sticky tires and a 3.08 gear run a 6.96@101 last night. The car ran a 6.91 last week and it's fairly consistent depending on inlet temps. The blowers get fairy hot so lapping the track has an effect.
I've seen a few new Camaro SS cars run and they are in the typical 7.80-7.90 range depending of course on the driver.That isn't bad because it equates to a 12.30 ish 1/4 mile. Not bad for an economy car. Lol
The ZL1 Camaro "should" deliver but that will be where the men and the boys are separated by their driving skills. The power vs weight looks good on paper.

[macwest]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

At this point the performance of the ZL1 is no more than speculation. Saw a HC with sticky tires and a 3.08 gear run a 6.96@101 last night. The car ran a 6.91 last week and it's fairly consistent depending on inlet temps. The blowers get fairy hot so lapping the track has an effect.
I've seen a few new Camaro SS cars run and they are in the typical 7.80-7.90 range depending of course on the driver.That isn't bad because it equates to a 12.30 ish 1/4 mile. Not bad for an economy car. Lol
The ZL1 Camaro "should" deliver but that will be where the men and the boys are separated by their driving skills. The power vs weight looks good on paper.

3.08 gear thats the auto hellcat?

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by macwest

3.08 gear thats the auto hellcat?

That's not the stock gear. It's lower numerically. Must have swapped for the 392 gearing.

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[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by macwest

3.08 gear thats the auto hellcat?

The original gear was a 2. something gear which is taller than his 3.08 gear. Yes it's an auto 8 spd. I made a comment earlier about the ZL1 being speculation which what I should have states is that it's to be determined performance is speculation. I know there is more often than not an internet performance number and then there is reality and the two don't often match up on the dragstrip. I don't favor circle racing because you usually don't get anywhere going in circles.

[17 White ZL1]

Stock HC A8 is 2.62 gears I installed 3.09 in my HC and improved the 60ft and .2 tenths on the big end. My best 60ft was 1.49 with the 3.09 but did loose freeway gas mileage.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by 17 White ZL1

Stock HC A8 is 2.62 gears I installed 3.09 in my HC and improved the 60ft and .2 tenths on the big end. My best 60ft was 1.49 with the 3.09 but did loose freeway gas mileage.

Ok, 3.09. I was close. Just lower your driving rpm and your mileage should come back.

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by 17 White ZL1

Stock HC A8 is 2.62 gears I installed 3.09 in my HC and improved the 60ft and .2 tenths on the big end. My best 60ft was 1.49 with the 3.09 but did loose freeway gas mileage.

I think my friends best 60' is a 1.51

[RyanR3KC]

ZL1 will most likely destroy the Hellcat in everything performance wise. How did the Z06 do against the Hellcat?

[396ssrat]

What I think is strange is that I rarely see any 2016 Camaros
at the dragstrip and when they are there there are pitiful in performance. I just do not understand what the heck is wrong here. I've seen 1 2016 run high 7 second 1/8th mile but the rest are pitiful.
I hope those who are able to get their hands on the coming ZL1 can get to the track and be as impressive as are the Hellcats.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by 396ssrat

What I think is strange is that I rarely see any 2016 Camaros
at the dragstrip and when they are there there are pitiful in performance. I just do not understand what the heck is wrong here. I've seen 1 2016 run high 7 second 1/8th mile but the rest are pitiful.
I hope those who are able to get their hands on the coming ZL1 can get to the track and be as impressive as are the Hellcats.

Not everyone can drive...

[396ssrat]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Not everyone can drive...

That is a fact!!!!!