GMPP Prices?

[Corvin]

I was just wondering if we were going to get the prices on the rest of the performance parts for the camaro; Air Intake, Shorty Headers, and the Catback. Are the prices going to be announced at the SEMA show? Just wondering because I would like an idea how much extra money I have to try and talk my wife out of to get these parts.

[TAG UR IT]

Dude...I want prices on ALL of the parts! I need to know what I'll be looking at, what can keep, and what I'm going to need to axe from my order.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

Dude...I want prices on ALL of the parts! I need to know what I'll be looking at, what can keep, and what I'm going to need to axe from my order.

[Scooter]

What do shorty headers give you???

[Jamestwilliams]

Originally Posted by Scooter

What do shorty headers give you???

Headers that easily fit in place of a stock manifold. And a partial gain in flow which allows for you to make the most of changes made via a tune or other additional parts. Long tube headers are of course much better at flowing exhaust gasses giving better high rpm horse power, while a more restricted exhaust actually produces better low end torque (restricted to a point).

[Scooter]

Originally Posted by Jamestwilliams

Headers that easily fit in place of a stock manifold. And a partial gain in flow which allows for you to make the most of changes made via a tune or other additional parts. Long tube headers are of course much better at flowing exhaust gasses giving better high rpm horse power, while a more restricted exhaust actually produces better low end torque (restricted to a point).

THANK YOU

[383ss]

Originally Posted by Scooter

What do shorty headers give you???

about 10 hp. not much.


long tubes will be about 25hp.

[zebra]

Originally Posted by 383ss

long tubes will be about 25hp.

in the higher rpm range

[radz28]

Originally Posted by zebra

in the higher rpm range

It's my understanding shorties give power way up top, like bike engine range, just like you've said. I wonder how big the primaries are since I know the length will be pretty short. Hopefully they'll be close to 1 3/4".

Originally Posted by 383ss

about 10 hp. not much.


long tubes will be about 25hp.

On LS1 F-bodies, I think they're right about where this post said. There was a guy on LS1tech (TrojanTA I think) who was working with BBK (I think) to get some 1 3/4-inch primary shorties CARB certified and he was going to add a 2.5-inch Y-pipe to see how close he could get to long tube (LT) gains. I don't ever recall if he ever finished what he found, if he actually determined anything, but this exhaust looks to be pretty optimized, from the pics' that we have.

FWIW, my brother's car ('02 F-body), with a lid, K&N, Borla catback (CB), and canned Diablosport tune, put down 327 to the tire, and after adding QTP LTs and their cat'd Y-pipe and tune, it put down 350+. My car, equipped pretty much the same, put down very similar numbers (as high as 366) so I think 20-30 RWHP is reasonable with a good tune and exhaust.

Originally Posted by Jamestwilliams

Headers that easily fit in place of a stock manifold. And a partial gain in flow which allows for you to make the most of changes made via a tune or other additional parts. Long tube headers are of course much better at flowing exhaust gasses giving better high rpm horse power, while a more restricted exhaust actually produces better low end torque (restricted to a point).

I can feel a little more low-end when I have my cutout closed than open, so I think that lends a little to this statement. It could just be a placebo, but this is a proven point. I'd encourage anyone who's interested to do research on dyno' test between shorties, LTs, and different primary sizes and lengths. It's pretty interesting

[NAHURRY]

I am little confused on dealer installed items and factory install, When ordering my car I said I wont the cat+headers and intake,he said We do all of this here at dealership??? Then I hear alot of u guys saying that u ordered this stuff,Can I get this stuff from fact. also the fuel door? Thanks in advance!

[Corvin]

Originally Posted by in a hurry

I am little confused on dealer installed items and factory install, When ordering my car I said I wont the cat+headers and intake,he said We do all of this here at dealership??? Then I hear alot of u guys saying that u ordered this stuff,Can I get this stuff from fact. also the fuel door? Thanks in advance!

Some of the goodies are offered only through the dealership parts counter, there are alot of options you can only get from the factory though. Make sure that everything you want from the factory is on your car now because once its here they can't send it back to add stuff. All the stuff the dealer installs is basically to personalize your car even more, and that can be done anytime after you have it if I'm not mistaken. And the cat+headers are only available from the dealer not the factory, same with the fuel door.

[ElManny]

Originally Posted by Corvin

Some of the goodies are offered only through the dealership parts counter, there are alot of options you can only get from the factory though. Make sure that everything you want from the factory is on your car now because once its here they can't send it back to add stuff. All the stuff the dealer installs is basically to personalize your car even more, and that can be done anytime after you have it if I'm not mistaken. And the cat+headers are only available from the dealer not the factory, same with the fuel door.

do you know off the top of your head the things that are only available from the factory?

[Inspector 17]

Originally Posted by ElManny

do you know off the top of your head the things that are only available from the factory?

These are listed in the ordering guide as dealer added:
* Fuel door
* Grille insert
* Splash guards
* Interior trim kits
* Subwoofer
* Catback exhaust
* Air intake
* Shorty headers

[CWI]

Originally Posted by camaropete

These are listed in the ordering guide as dealer added:
* Fuel door
* Grille insert
* Splash guards
* Interior trim kits
* Subwoofer
* Catback exhaust
* Air intake
* Shorty headers

If I understand correctly, these items can be installed by the dealer before you take delivery free of labor cost. If you go back to have them installed later you will have to pay the labor. I could be wrong. I would just ask the dealer in advance, talk to the service manager.