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1st Gen Forever · 06-11-2012, 10:25 PM

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LimaCharlie · 06-11-2012, 10:36 PM

It's nice to finally see a GT500 vs. ZL1 video. After all the GT500 and ZL1 threads, nobody should be surprised here. GT500 has the acceleration advantage and the ZL1 handles better.

Ron66Vette&10SS · 06-11-2012, 10:37 PM

FINALLY.....a direct comparison between the ZL1 and '13 GT500

JMAN311 · 06-11-2012, 10:51 PM

Well that pretty much went down the way I was expecting. Thanks for posting.

MrDew · 06-11-2012, 10:52 PM

I think everyone with an unbiased opinion could have seen this coming based on the numbers!

charly_rock · 06-11-2012, 10:59 PM

I am cool with our #'s.

coanbread23 · 06-11-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LimaCharlie

It's nice to finally see a GT500 vs. ZL1 video. After all the GT500 and ZL1 threads, nobody should be surprised here. GT500 has the acceleration advantage and the ZL1 handles better.

Didnt the SVT beat the ZL1 in every aspect of the test?

Deki · 06-11-2012, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by coanbread23

Didnt the SVT beat the ZL1 in every aspect of the test?

No, lost slalom and skid pad. .05 on the skid pad is quite a difference as well. We'll see how composed the GT500 is on a road course. Decent video. MT just needs to stick RP behind the wheel of both of these beasts and let him beat the hell out of them at Willow.

LSX-V · 06-11-2012, 11:10 PM

You should see the kool aid drinking svt forum owners. They are trying to downplay and hate on the zl1. Excuses such as: These guys don't know how to test cars, The gt500 goes straight faster and that's the only thing that matters, Whoopdy the zl1 goes fast in a circle.

I own a cts-v and anyone whos driven an lsa car with mag ride knows what I'm talking about when I say it's a very well balanced car. It kills my 12 gt500 svt perf package car on the same twisty roads.

That being said It seems as though the cts-v got similar numbers on the same test despite being 300lbs heavier and around 30hp down.

GM ZL1 CTS-V <3

lakersftbl69 · 06-11-2012, 11:19 PM

After watching this I feel like the zl1 still didnt do that bad in the 1/4 mile with that extra weight and less power I'm still a proud camaro fan doesn't matter what.

derklug · 06-11-2012, 11:24 PM

This is just what people have thought since the GT500 anounced 650+hp. The ZL1 would lose at the strip, but be better at the track. Now it is going to depend on the track, small tight tracks will make the ZL1 shine, larger tracks with bigger turns and straights will favor the GT500. Unfortunatly for most of these cars, the only track they will see is the one that leads into the garage and allows room for the owner to get all the way around it to get the cover on correctly.

mdmoore23 · 06-12-2012, 12:19 AM

That video was hardly the comparison I'd like to see. Somebody test these things on a track. Lap times please.

tsnow · 06-12-2012, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LSX-V

You should see the kool aid drinking svt forum owners. They are trying to downplay and hate on the zl1. Excuses such as: These guys don't know how to test cars, The gt500 goes straight faster and that's the only thing that matters, Whoopdy the zl1 goes fast in a circle.

I own a cts-v and anyone whos driven an lsa car with mag ride knows what I'm talking about when I say it's a very well balanced car. It kills my 12 gt500 svt perf package car on the same twisty roads.

That being said It seems as though the cts-v got similar numbers on the same test despite being 300lbs heavier and around 30hp down.

This is one thing I don't understand, CTS-V is heavier and down 24hp, and ZL-1 has more tire to put it down.
The Camaro should drop a few tenths there, no?

Ron66Vette&10SS · 06-12-2012, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tsnow

This is one thing I don't understand, CTS-V is heavier and down 24hp, and ZL-1 has more tire to put it down.
The Camaro should drop a few tenths there, no?

More HP & less weight can be negated by excessive torque management......not that GM would have done that to "fix" a drivetrain durability issue during the mystery QC Hold or anything......that would be crazy talk.

06-11-2012, 10:25 PM	#1
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06-11-2012, 10:36 PM	#2
LimaCharlie Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS - 2004 Silverado Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,989	It's nice to finally see a GT500 vs. ZL1 video. After all the GT500 and ZL1 threads, nobody should be surprised here. GT500 has the acceleration advantage and the ZL1 handles better. __________________ 2011 Summit White Camaro 1SS/RS -6.2 LS3, TR6060, 3.45, G80 2004 Black Silverado 1500 2WD Regular Cab, Short Bed -5.3 LM7, 4L60E, 3.42, G80 2014 White Caprice PPV -6.0 L77, 6L80E, 2.92, G80

06-11-2012, 10:37 PM	#3
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06-11-2012, 10:51 PM	#4
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06-11-2012, 11:19 PM	#10
lakersftbl69 Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: conway sc. Posts: 1,435 View My Garage	After watching this I feel like the zl1 still didnt do that bad in the 1/4 mile with that extra weight and less power I'm still a proud camaro fan doesn't matter what. __________________ ordered dec 15 2008 picked up on june 8 2009. upgrades kooks 1 7/8" LTH w/ deleted cats, corsa exhaust, hurst short throw shifter stage 3 comp cam, 3.91 gears ecs kit blower, meth injection, upgraded axles, drive shaft, McLeod rxt clutch, fully forged 416ci stroker all installed and dyno tuned by slowhawk performance in bridgewater ma.

06-11-2012, 10:52 PM	#5
MrDew Drives: 2012 ZL1 #165 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Switzerland (no longer Houston, TX) :-( Posts: 479 View My Garage	I think everyone with an unbiased opinion could have seen this coming based on the numbers!

06-11-2012, 10:59 PM	#6
charly_rock Drives: soon => ZL1 #1512 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NY Posts: 43	I am cool with our #'s.

06-11-2012, 11:24 PM	#11
derklug Drives: 12 Boss 302 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Posts: 1,369	This is just what people have thought since the GT500 anounced 650+hp. The ZL1 would lose at the strip, but be better at the track. Now it is going to depend on the track, small tight tracks will make the ZL1 shine, larger tracks with bigger turns and straights will favor the GT500. Unfortunatly for most of these cars, the only track they will see is the one that leads into the garage and allows room for the owner to get all the way around it to get the cover on correctly. __________________ The biggest mistakes in life come when you know exactly what you are doing.

06-12-2012, 12:19 AM	#12
mdmoore23 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Graniteville,SC Posts: 645	That video was hardly the comparison I'd like to see. Somebody test these things on a track. Lap times please.