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Old 07-24-2017, 12:14 PM   #127
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And just an FYI, that's a solid 0.5+ seconds off the current GT's 0-60 times.
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:22 PM   #128
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I'm impressed with the updates.. I'm sure the new tires help as well. Hopefully it drives better than 15-17.
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:24 PM   #129
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I'm impressed with the updates.. I'm sure the new tires help as well. Hopefully it drives better than 15-17.
Curious to see the manual transmission 0-60.
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:26 PM   #130
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Curious to see the manual transmission 0-60.
Sounds like it.. Looks like you even have to put it into drag mode to get the best time.. I'm more intrigued to see how the times for 6 speed will improve and what changes they made to the 6 speed.
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:32 PM   #131
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Curious to see how the 10-speed drives in comparison to the GM unit. Will be test driving!
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:33 PM   #132
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Finally Ford gives the V8 direct injection. Nice upgrades all around. I wonder what the MSRP will be now.

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The new Mustang is also faster than a $94,000 Porsche 911 Carrera, which Carl Widmann, Mustang chief engineer, attributes to five factors:
Marketing speak always amuses me. Let me know when the GT does this...

Car&Driver instrument test of the 911 Carrera PDK:

Zero to 60 mph: 3.4 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 14.8 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.3 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.6 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.9 sec @ 118 mph
Top speed (mfr's claim): 183 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 135 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.06 g
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:38 PM   #133
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I think that is interesting and it needs at least that much to keep up. But I still think the SS will beat it in the quarter mile. I mean, is Ford REALLY gonna make it so the $30K Mustang GT is just as fast or faster than the $85K (with markups) Shelby GT350R? LOL!! I would laugh if that actually happened. But no, I don't think that will be the case. Chevy has already proven what it can do. Now it is on Ford and I doubt they will be as fast.
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Old 07-24-2017, 12:51 PM   #134
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I think that is interesting and it needs at least that much to keep up. But I still think the SS will beat it in the quarter mile. I mean, is Ford REALLY gonna make it so the $30K Mustang GT is just as fast or faster than the $85K (with markups) Shelby GT350R? LOL!! I would laugh if that actually happened. But no, I don't think that will be the case. Chevy has already proven what it can do. Now it is on Ford and I doubt they will be as fast.
It needs at least that much what?

It's all in the 60'.

It looks like the 18 A10 will go head to head with the Camaro SS A8. 0.5+ seconds off of the 0-60 alone. You know it wont be slower on the top end, so I could possibly see a 0.6-0.7 second quicker time here than the current gen mustang.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:10 PM   #135
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It needs at least that much what?

It's all in the 60'.

It looks like the 18 A10 will go head to head with the Camaro SS A8. 0.5+ seconds off of the 0-60 alone. You know it wont be slower on the top end, so I could possibly see a 0.6-0.7 second quicker time here than the current gen mustang.
Good for Ford.. I always love competition.. with that sed, remember to achieve that time requires an A10, Performance Pack and drag mode. The A8 SS hits 3.9 by itself, nothing else.

What about the M6? If the A10 can run 12 flat to low 12s.. M6 low 12's to mid 12's in good air then it's a big achievement and will be on par with the SS.

The tires are very critical so the performance pack is definitely needed to be competitive.
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Now that the official numbers are out, I suspect the 10A GT to put up a pretty decent fight against a 8A SS.

Manual cars I am not sure on, I would probably still give edge to the SS but at least in a straight line the Mustang now appears to show some fight
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it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Im interested to see how the a10 performs. the 6r80 while harder than a coffin nail is not a fun transmission to drive
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If they used similar gearing as the ZL1 10R90, then the Auto GT is running something like a 4.70:1 first gear.. That means they can hole shot the crap out of the car and not put an insane gear in the rear. That's probably a lot of the 0-60 is 1st gear getting it moving fast and w/o all the low end TQ like the LT4 has, it's not as slip happy with too much power too fast. It's a fairly old trick and I knew a lot of Fox Body people slapping in 4.10s in their diffs (vs trans swap) knowing they'd lose highway vs red-lighting people around town.
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If they used similar gearing as the ZL1 10R90, then the Auto GT is running something like a 4.70:1 first gear.. That means they can hole shot the crap out of the car and not put an insane gear in the rear. That's probably a lot of the 0-60 is 1st gear getting it moving fast and w/o all the low end TQ like the LT4 has, it's not as slip happy with too much power too fast. It's a fairly old trick and I knew a lot of Fox Body people slapping in 4.10s in their diffs (vs trans swap) knowing they'd lose highway vs red-lighting people around town.
Same thing held true pretty much through until the coyote came around. I had 4.10s in my 04 GT and in my 07 GT. Great way to make up for the lack of low end torque
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Same thing held true pretty much through until the coyote came around. I had 4.10s in my 04 GT and in my 07 GT. Great way to make up for the lack of low end torque
Yep.. your 1st gear went short as crap, but you took off fast.. That highway mileage and engine noise though.. Ooof.. I'm sure it was better with 5 and 6 speed autos, but ughh.. riding around back in the day in an auto fox in the rear... deafening with the Mustang standard Flowmasters.
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