08-05-2017, 10:57 AM | #99 |
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The 14.6 percent decline in Camaro deliveries continues to sap sales volume from the sports car. By comparison, Dodge Challenger sales decreased 4.56 percent to 5,333 units and Ford Mustang sales fell 35.12 percent to 6,206 units. As such, the sales performance puts Camaro in last place in the pony car sales race for July, behind the Mustang in first and the Challenger in second. All kinds of reasons have been provided for the declining sales performance of the Camaro, but the most prominent is the higher price of the sixth-gen Camaro, supposedly due to a strategic change within GM to sell fewer models at a higher profit. What’s more, with the exception a bonus cash offers along with specific incentives to lure Mustang owners, Chevrolet has largely refrained from piling incentives onto the sixth-gen Camaro while the competition has not been as disciplined. Even so, a refresh to the Chevy sports car is coming for the 2019 model year. Perhaps it will help sell this wonderful sports car. Read more: http://gmauthority.com/blog/2017/08/...#ixzz4otfWdVbU |
08-05-2017, 11:08 AM | #100 |
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What everyone here has to remember that to call Camaro the retail sales leader, you have to add an asterisk with the qualifier "in the US".
Mustang sold upwards of 45k units internationally last uear, unless you believe that those all ended up on rental lots in the other 140 countries they were sold too, then these were also high profit retail sales. Where the cash comes from doesnt matter to FoMoCo's bank books, it all get logged as profit, so S550 is more than likely making cash just fine. Arguably, it has more than likely made more profit than either of its counterparts due to the international cars costing even more than their US/NA brethren.
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Maybe Mustang should study why there sales are "sapped"? with a 34% decline?... It just seems to baffle some that the Camaro hasn't gone to crisis mode yet, in spite all the opinions that it should... Quote:
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08-05-2017, 12:23 PM | #102 | |
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I think people are tired of the same design of the Camaro even though it did change the average person really cant tell a difference or their isnt a big enough change to make them purchase the 6th Gen. Camaro. And price isnt helping it any either. Ford just has a different sales strategy to keep the Mustang in play which it has since 1964 1/2 even during the so-called bad years. And if its fleet, overseas sales then Ford will do it and I personally think its a pretty good strategy if you ask me. Profit is profit regardless of where it comes from. |
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If that were the case there would not be several months of excess inventory sitting on lots during the entirety of 6th generation production. They would not have ramped up a 3rd shift last year. The whole "We will sell less at a higher price" is simply spin. It is not bourne out by their actual production numbers. Its PR. Its nonsense. They expected to sell in much higher volume. Last month they sold fewer retail than Ford and Dodge, and far fewer overall sales. But sure, everything is according to plan..... |
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Meeting that demand at a quicker pace can only yield benefits. It also means that they can continue to produce Mustang for all shifts with no slow down. People keep their jobs and more profits are made, win win.
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Like Camaro, GM raised the price of CTS and ATS significantly and it appears they want the three to carry the plant with higher end retail. Obviously not the result they'd hoped for but they ARE adjusting and going at it again with CT5/4/3 and expected gen7. 1 in 3 Mustang and Challenger are rental cars. The old GM bankrupted itself chasing fleet volume and the retail product suffered for it. Congratulations to Ford for being the volume leader.
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Excuses excuses sounds like political parties bickering. The 6th Gen has been plagued with poor sales for a brand new design since it was introduced. If anyone in this forum thinks this is going to change anytime soon you are crazy. When you can't even beat out a 9+ yro model. Or your direct competition when it is known there is a much improved model due shortly in the GT you have major issues. Let's have this conversation again once the new GT hits the lots.
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