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AzItaliaSS · 11-08-2015, 06:27 AM

I checked a lot of the Camaro vids that have the cam. upper/lower 230's sounds specd like the tsp. I noticed it says mid to high range? do we have to widen to get lower end as well? or will eventual gears make up the low end gap on that cam that seems to have mid range power curve from what I read?

Joe@CPR.com · 11-08-2015, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AzItaliaSS

I checked a lot of the Camaro vids that have the cam. upper/lower 230's sounds specd like the tsp. I noticed it says mid to high range? do we have to widen to get lower end as well? or will eventual gears make up the low end gap on that cam that seems to have mid range power curve from what I read?

Our defibrillator cam doesn't need gears at all. You still will have great low end given the size of the cam, lots of our customers in AZ with this cam that im sure will give you a ride.

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AzItaliaSS · 11-09-2015, 01:44 PM

Yeah, guess I'll try and track one down to check it out..
Any of those cams floating around gilbert? San tan area?

Joe@CPR.com · 11-09-2015, 04:03 PM

Plenty of them floating around. Probably do 1-2 a month haha

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Unreal · 11-10-2015, 10:23 AM

Since Joe and I are right by there I'm sure he could find one and meet up for a beer or something.

Joe@CPR.com · 11-10-2015, 11:52 AM

I don't see why we couldn't

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SSeniorMoment · 11-12-2015, 05:17 PM

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I'll take dyno numbers over 1/4 mile numbers any day of the week. Track conditions, drivers, supporting mods, tires, DA. Comparing what a prepped drag setup car does at VIR in -1500 DA to 5000DA in a stock tire car in Phoenix is silly.

My wifes basically stock mustang ran 11.9s consistently at firebird, faster than any cammed Camaro I've seen in town, so does that mean it make more power or is better? It makes 380rwhp, but pulls 1.61 60s and has proper gearing/tires. Car went from 12.8s to 11.9s with nothing but suspension/setup changes. No added power.

While dyno numbers can be manipulated, with SAE on a dynojet, it really takes someone going out of their way to do it. On a dynapak it is easy just because you can enter a different gear ratio and numbers change drastically, but besides playing dyno games (cooling stuff, jacking up tire pressure, ice, weather station in front of heater, etc) messing with dynojet numbers isn't that easy/common.

With a 6l80e (3600 stall) dynojet tune, is it best to tune in an overdrive gear or 4th gear?

Unreal · 11-12-2015, 05:47 PM

Best to tune on street, and all gears. For "dyno" numbers they are done as close to a 1:1 gear as possible. That could be 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th depending on the transmission.

AzItaliaSS · 11-13-2015, 12:46 AM

Yeah I thought about pulling the car out and rolling down to joe on Monday or Tuesday to check stuff out and shoot the breeze. Plus I need to start it, its been sleepin in the garage for a bit cause I been playing with my DD C32 trying to dial it in, it(C32) needs tune and new intake bad.

SSeniorMoment · 11-13-2015, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

Best to tune on street, and all gears. For "dyno" numbers they are done as close to a 1:1 gear as possible. That could be 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th depending on the transmission.

I understand the the 1:1 gear, but the 6l80e transmission gears are different ratios that don't have 1:1. Diff is 3.27.....4th is 1.15 (3.76) and 5th is 0.85 (2.78)......5th on the dyno would be about ~190mph at the top of the engine rpm range.

GONIF · 11-13-2015, 12:36 PM

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Best to tune on street, and all gears. For "dyno" numbers they are done as close to a 1:1 gear as possible. That could be 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th depending on the transmission.

That is the way my 2014 CRT 1LE was done on a warm Saturday morning in June 2014 at Arizona Dynochip by someone named Nick D. Am I correct in assuming that Unreal is NicK D ?

Unreal · 11-13-2015, 01:54 PM

Nope.

Nic D is Nic D
Nick V=Me

Nic D is a sadist that will tune for others. I'm a bitter engineer that doesn't want to deal with most of the public so you have to be nice and offer beer for me to consider tuning a car. I typically assist in some of the high HP tunes. Done ~20 1000+rwhp LS cars now across a few states but typically stay out of the lime light because I'm too busy at the day job to mess with tuning for what people want to pay.

GONIF · 11-13-2015, 05:27 PM

Ok , thanks

SSeniorMoment · 11-13-2015, 08:43 PM

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Nope.

Nic D is Nic D
Nick V=Me

Nic D is a sadist that will tune for others. I'm a bitter engineer that doesn't want to deal with most of the public so you have to be nice and offer beer for me to consider tuning a car. I typically assist in some of the high HP tunes. Done ~20 1000+rwhp LS cars now across a few states but typically stay out of the lime light because I'm too busy at the day job to mess with tuning for what people want to pay.

I include limes with beer.

11-08-2015, 06:27 AM	#71
AzItaliaSS Drives: 2010 2ss RJT LS3 GONE.... Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: GILBERT,ARIZONA Posts: 720	I checked a lot of the Camaro vids that have the cam. upper/lower 230's sounds specd like the tsp. I noticed it says mid to high range? do we have to widen to get lower end as well? or will eventual gears make up the low end gap on that cam that seems to have mid range power curve from what I read? __________________ GONE FAR FAR AWAY......Good bye C5 VARARAM, SWSP 1 7/8 LT'S,X-PIPE,CAT DELETE,DYNOMAX RACE BULLETTS, LSR SHORT SHIFTER ,CUSTOM BLACK EMBLEMS,MPD1 SPOILER, HP TUNE BY GEARHEAD GARAGE, INTERIOR ABL LIGHTING, CUSTOM STRIPING BY BEAVER STRIPES, EIBACHS

11-09-2015, 01:44 PM	#73
AzItaliaSS Drives: 2010 2ss RJT LS3 GONE.... Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: GILBERT,ARIZONA Posts: 720	Yeah, guess I'll try and track one down to check it out.. Any of those cams floating around gilbert? San tan area? __________________ GONE FAR FAR AWAY......Good bye C5 VARARAM, SWSP 1 7/8 LT'S,X-PIPE,CAT DELETE,DYNOMAX RACE BULLETTS, LSR SHORT SHIFTER ,CUSTOM BLACK EMBLEMS,MPD1 SPOILER, HP TUNE BY GEARHEAD GARAGE, INTERIOR ABL LIGHTING, CUSTOM STRIPING BY BEAVER STRIPES, EIBACHS Last edited by AzItaliaSS; 11-09-2015 at 03:13 PM.

11-10-2015, 10:23 AM	#75
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Since Joe and I are right by there I'm sure he could find one and meet up for a beer or something. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

11-12-2015, 05:47 PM	#78
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Best to tune on street, and all gears. For "dyno" numbers they are done as close to a 1:1 gear as possible. That could be 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th depending on the transmission. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

11-13-2015, 12:46 AM	#79
AzItaliaSS Drives: 2010 2ss RJT LS3 GONE.... Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: GILBERT,ARIZONA Posts: 720	Yeah I thought about pulling the car out and rolling down to joe on Monday or Tuesday to check stuff out and shoot the breeze. Plus I need to start it, its been sleepin in the garage for a bit cause I been playing with my DD C32 trying to dial it in, it(C32) needs tune and new intake bad. __________________ GONE FAR FAR AWAY......Good bye C5 VARARAM, SWSP 1 7/8 LT'S,X-PIPE,CAT DELETE,DYNOMAX RACE BULLETTS, LSR SHORT SHIFTER ,CUSTOM BLACK EMBLEMS,MPD1 SPOILER, HP TUNE BY GEARHEAD GARAGE, INTERIOR ABL LIGHTING, CUSTOM STRIPING BY BEAVER STRIPES, EIBACHS

11-09-2015, 04:03 PM	#74
Joe@CPR.com Account Suspended Drives: 03 vette, 94 trans am, 04 gto Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 995	Plenty of them floating around. Probably do 1-2 a month haha Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

11-10-2015, 11:52 AM	#76
Joe@CPR.com Account Suspended Drives: 03 vette, 94 trans am, 04 gto Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 995	I don't see why we couldn't Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

11-13-2015, 01:54 PM	#82
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Nope. Nic D is Nic D Nick V=Me Nic D is a sadist that will tune for others. I'm a bitter engineer that doesn't want to deal with most of the public so you have to be nice and offer beer for me to consider tuning a car. I typically assist in some of the high HP tunes. Done ~20 1000+rwhp LS cars now across a few states but typically stay out of the lime light because I'm too busy at the day job to mess with tuning for what people want to pay. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

11-13-2015, 05:27 PM	#83
GONIF Drives: 73 VETTE ,, 05 2500hd diesel,14 1LE Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: The Left lane PHOENIX AZ Posts: 2,626	Ok , thanks __________________ OLD GUY FLYING FAST AND LOW