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Nitroman28 · 04-03-2012, 03:53 PM

Problem I have is The passenger side rear tire is gone on the inside, I took it back to the Shop to get the alignment checked and they said it was still in specs.. Any idea why the tire is wearing like this? I have Toyo Proxie4's on it.. The Perilli's wear even.. I have around 10,000 miles on them.

Passenger side

Driver side

Alinement sheet

Powhusku · 04-03-2012, 04:14 PM

Could be a faulty tire. Maybe have an expert or a tire guy check it for problems. Could be a manufacturer defect hence it would be covered under warranty!

Nitroman28 · 04-03-2012, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powhusku

Could be a faulty tire. Maybe have an expert or a tire guy check it for problems. Could be a manufacturer defect hence it would be covered under warranty!

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Done tried that, Toyo said it was a problem with the car..

edgehead2000 · 04-03-2012, 06:46 PM

Did you email toyo the alignment sheet? I dont see how they get off saying its the car.

Nitroman28 · 04-03-2012, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgehead2000

Did you email toyo the alignment sheet? I dont see how they get off saying its the car.

I sent them an email, waiting on a reply,

Nitroman28 · 04-04-2012, 01:00 PM

This was the reply I got. So are the saying my alliment is wrong?
*
Thank you for contacting Toyo Tires USA.* Your 2010 Chevy Camaro is a performance vehicle with an factory designed negative camber setting, -0.3 degrees on the front and -0.7 degrees on the rear.* The optimum camber angle for even tire wear is +0.1 degrees, so anything with camber setting of -0.7 (as the rear of the 2010 Camaro) is going to be susceptible to inside shoulder wear.* Aggressive driving would greatly increase inside shoulder wear.* An aggressive "take off" from a dead start in a rear wheel drive vehicle will cause the rear axle to "squat", thus increasing the degree of negative camber at the exact moment of high torque and road friction.* As to why the accelerated wear is only on one tire and not the others, we can only guess, but specific driving characteristics must come into play.* A tire will only wear in the manner in which it is forced to wear by the vehicle mechanics and driving application.* If we had to guess, we would assume this particular tire has spent most of its 8,000 mile life on the rear axle, passenger side, the roughest position on a rear wheel drive vehicle.* This condition is not a tire issue.
*
We do hope this information is helpful to you.
*

Scalded Dog · 04-04-2012, 01:13 PM

That's a bummer, but for the NEXT tires, is rotation an option? Not sure of those are directional (they appear to be), and if you have staggered wheels, may not be possible, but, at least with rotation, one can extend the life of a set, by sharing the heavy wear areas. Too bad it's all the way down to "ready to freakin' fly apart like a big rig tire," because you do not want to ride one more mile on that thing (Just the other day, I stopped for a car on the shoulder of the Interstate. It looked like the car had been involved in an accident. Turns out, MAJOR body damage was done to the car when the tread separated, slapping the fender to pieces, bashing the bumper in, and even pounding the trunk lid down to worthless... and the tire still held air!).

You don't want to risk that on a Camaro... that would be a true tragedy.

Black_2SS · 04-04-2012, 02:03 PM

Interesting response from Toyo....my Pirelli did the same and I paid for a second alignment.....shop told me that it was in spec but they "fixed" it. I'll have to pull my sheet now! Thanks for posting it and good luck w/ that tire, hope you don't have to drive on it!!

04-03-2012, 03:53 PM	#1
Nitroman28 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS 416/4L80 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,835 View My Garage	Help with tire wear Problem I have is The passenger side rear tire is gone on the inside, I took it back to the Shop to get the alignment checked and they said it was still in specs.. Any idea why the tire is wearing like this? I have Toyo Proxie4's on it.. The Perilli's wear even.. I have around 10,000 miles on them. Passenger side Driver side Alinement sheet

04-03-2012, 04:14 PM	#2
Powhusku Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Laramie/Cody, WY Posts: 1,743 View My Garage	Could be a faulty tire. Maybe have an expert or a tire guy check it for problems. Could be a manufacturer defect hence it would be covered under warranty! __________________

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04-03-2012, 06:46 PM	#4
edgehead2000 2016 Camaro 1LT 2.0T Drives: Nemesis Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 844	Did you email toyo the alignment sheet? I dont see how they get off saying its the car.

04-04-2012, 01:00 PM	#6
Nitroman28 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS 416/4L80 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,835 View My Garage	This was the reply I got. So are the saying my alliment is wrong? * Thank you for contacting Toyo Tires USA.* Your 2010 Chevy Camaro is a performance vehicle with an factory designed negative camber setting, -0.3 degrees on the front and -0.7 degrees on the rear.* The optimum camber angle for even tire wear is +0.1 degrees, so anything with camber setting of -0.7 (as the rear of the 2010 Camaro) is going to be susceptible to inside shoulder wear.* Aggressive driving would greatly increase inside shoulder wear.* An aggressive "take off" from a dead start in a rear wheel drive vehicle will cause the rear axle to "squat", thus increasing the degree of negative camber at the exact moment of high torque and road friction.* As to why the accelerated wear is only on one tire and not the others, we can only guess, but specific driving characteristics must come into play.* A tire will only wear in the manner in which it is forced to wear by the vehicle mechanics and driving application.* If we had to guess, we would assume this particular tire has spent most of its 8,000 mile life on the rear axle, passenger side, the roughest position on a rear wheel drive vehicle.* This condition is not a tire issue. * We do hope this information is helpful to you. *

04-04-2012, 01:13 PM	#7
Scalded Dog Drives: 2011 1LT Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Crestline, CA Posts: 3,029	That's a bummer, but for the NEXT tires, is rotation an option? Not sure of those are directional (they appear to be), and if you have staggered wheels, may not be possible, but, at least with rotation, one can extend the life of a set, by sharing the heavy wear areas. Too bad it's all the way down to "ready to freakin' fly apart like a big rig tire," because you do not want to ride one more mile on that thing (Just the other day, I stopped for a car on the shoulder of the Interstate. It looked like the car had been involved in an accident. Turns out, MAJOR body damage was done to the car when the tread separated, slapping the fender to pieces, bashing the bumper in, and even pounding the trunk lid down to worthless... and the tire still held air!). You don't want to risk that on a Camaro... that would be a true tragedy.

04-04-2012, 02:03 PM	#8
Black_2SS Drives: 2018 Camaro SS HotWheels Edition Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 276	Interesting response from Toyo....my Pirelli did the same and I paid for a second alignment.....shop told me that it was in spec but they "fixed" it. I'll have to pull my sheet now! Thanks for posting it and good luck w/ that tire, hope you don't have to drive on it!!