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Old 12-21-2010, 12:58 PM   #15
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A drain plug is a good idea and reduces the mess when dropping the pan. What about changing the filter? Doesn't this trans have a filter like the older TH350/400 trans had that required dropping the pan to replace?
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:08 PM   #16
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A drain plug is a good idea and reduces the mess when dropping the pan. What about changing the filter? Doesn't this trans have a filter like the older TH350/400 trans had that required dropping the pan to replace?
It does have a filter.

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Old 12-21-2010, 02:30 PM   #17
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Why is the drain plug on the upper side and not on the lower side of the pan? Why is the fill-plug hidden from us? A shaddy design by GM who wants us to bring our cars into their service department in order to steal money our hard working dollars. It's the same tactic, well used by BMW and LEXUS, to lure us into their service department because we can't do it or lack the tools.
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:06 PM   #18
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Why is the drain plug on the upper side and not on the lower side of the pan? Why is the fill-plug hidden from us? A shaddy design by GM who wants us to bring our cars into their service department in order to steal money our hard working dollars. It's the same tactic, well used by BMW and LEXUS, to lure us into their service department because we can't do it or lack the tools.
Really? That's what you think is in play here?

A. 99% of the population never change the trans fluid themselves.

B. GM recommends changing it every 100,000 miles. That's hardly a ploy to get you in the service department to make all kinds of money for GM.

C. I don't see much point in CHANGING fluid by draining the pan when there's still a lot of fluid in the transmission. It's either a multi-step process or a trip to a transmission shop to do a FLUSH.
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:12 PM   #19
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Really? That's what you think is in play here?

A. 99% of the population never change the trans fluid themselves.

B. GM recommends changing it every 100,000 miles. That's hardly a ploy to get you in the service department to make all kinds of money for GM.

C. I don't see much point in CHANGING fluid by draining the pan when there's still a lot of fluid in the transmission. It's either a multi-step process or a trip to a transmission shop to do a FLUSH.



To the OP... Nice DIY post..
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:49 PM   #20
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Really? That's what you think is in play here?

A. 99% of the population never change the trans fluid themselves.

B. GM recommends changing it every 100,000 miles. That's hardly a ploy to get you in the service department to make all kinds of money for GM.

C. I don't see much point in CHANGING fluid by draining the pan when there's still a lot of fluid in the transmission. It's either a multi-step process or a trip to a transmission shop to do a FLUSH.
And 99% of the population don't drive their Camaros hard enough to require a transmission fluid change before 100,000 miles.

Ditto the differential. People have reported dirty differential fluid, but it's supposed to look chalky due to the friction plates!
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Old 12-21-2010, 06:14 PM   #21
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Why is the drain plug on the upper side and not on the lower side of the pan?


because its not a drain plug,, it is the fill level indicator plug!

check out the pic i posted,, when fluid flows out of the plug the level is full
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Old 12-21-2010, 09:01 PM   #22
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Camaro 1 is right.

Alot of the newer cars and the 97-now corvette's do not have drain plugs. Those are actually the fill plugs.To drain it you drop the pan. To fill you need the car running and start pumping tranny fluid into the fill (some people think drain)plug. It can get very messy. Car has to be level.I do it on the lift with someone in the car to hit it in gear ect to make sure it is full.
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Old 12-22-2010, 09:04 AM   #23
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Camaro 1 is right.

Alot of the newer cars and the 97-now corvette's do not have drain plugs. Those are actually the fill plugs.To drain it you drop the pan. To fill you need the car running and start pumping tranny fluid into the fill (some people think drain)plug. It can get very messy. Car has to be level.I do it on the lift with someone in the car to hit it in gear ect to make sure it is full.
I don't know why people keep thinking the myth of no fill-plug. I found the fill-plug. See picture. The drain-plug get me about 2.5 quarts out when unplug it on level ground. Don't unplug the drain-plug if you don't want a big mess on the floor.

I agreed that taking the whole pan out will take most of the fluid out, but you can't never get 100% old fluid out unless one do a system flush. Tilting the head of the car up will yield another 1 qt or more (depend on your slope). By taking 3.5qt out of 6.7qt, you can reduce the wear and tear of the gears by 50%.
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Old 12-22-2010, 09:26 AM   #24
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the total 6l80e system capacity is 10.9 qts

and why do you keep calling it a drain plug,, its not a drain plug!
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Old 12-22-2010, 10:23 AM   #25
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the total 6l80e system capacity is 10.9 qts

and why do you keep calling it a drain plug,, its not a drain plug!

1) 2010 Camaro Owner's Manual page 11-3 states that V8 Engine 6-Speed Automatic capacity is 6.7qt
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33993

2) I'll call it an outlet-plug then, just to keep you off my neck. ?

3) Have you unplug (so called fill-plug) and try to put a tube through the hole to refill the pan? It's impossible because you will hit the fillter blocking the hole to receive any kind of inlet tubes or fluid in. That is why you need to use the fill-plug from the top of the transmission, not the bottom plug.
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Old 12-22-2010, 11:40 AM   #26
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that is pan/ case capacity,, the total system capacity is 10.9 qts,, right from the gm service manual

i dont know of any auto trans that is only 6qts total capacity,, and i have built a few of them.
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ill be adding a dipstick to mine this spring,, here is the info:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/pontia...-36-6l80e.html
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:53 PM   #28
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ill be adding a dipstick to mine this spring,, here is the info:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/pontia...-36-6l80e.html
Thanks for the info Camaro1. I'm looking into this as well.
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