Subframe Question: Mounts? Bushings? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

B-Rex · 09-15-2011, 05:27 PM

What is the difference from Pfadt's Solid Mounts vs Pedders Bushings performance wise? Are they the same thing? Did I just ask a stupid question?

Eric Baker · 09-15-2011, 06:38 PM

They both replace the same part, but one is made of aluminum and one is polyurethane. One has no play at all, and one has very little. You have to decide how rigid you want your car and how much you want to spend. Either way they are worlds better than stock as far as performance.

TLSTWIN · 09-15-2011, 07:01 PM

HUGE discussion about this not to long ago... do a search on it... I can't remember where the thread is.

Pedders actually has 3 different styles, each a different "stiffness"... did I just say "stiffness"?

EDIT

Found the thread
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158634

B-Rex · 09-15-2011, 07:05 PM

ok. i keep going back and forth between the two parts, and that's what i thought the difference was i just wanted to make sure....

thanks though

brantley847 · 09-15-2011, 07:22 PM

I did subframe bushings first.. good quality difference for handling. It is amazing how much difference a simple poly bushing can do.

Based on my feelings of the subframe bushing, I went and did the full kit. Launch and braking are smoother... I wish I could explain it better, but I do not autocross so it is only DD applications. Road noise is very minimal and only noticeable when I hit the road reflectors. If you hit a bad road full of potholes, it is a rough ride, but beside that the ride comfort level stayed the same.

Depends on what you want from this vehicle.. if it is a DD, I would stay away from solid. Buddy of mine races and his are solid. A bit of road noise in addition to a slightly rougher ride. Ask a vendor to be sure, I am happy where I am at with the poly and wouldn't want to go any "stiffer"

B-Rex · 09-15-2011, 07:42 PM

mine is a DD, and i don't run auto cross or anything. the main concern is a good set up for the weekend 1/4 mile runs, but i still need to get back and forth every day.

thanks for the feedback, was a pretty good description imo

JDP Motorsports · 09-16-2011, 12:30 AM

I think both products are great and we do a lot of both here. I personally run the Pfadt mounts in my Camaro and wouldn't change them for anything. The Corvette utilizes solid mounting for their sub-frames and I had a minimal to no increase in NHV. I think both products are great however and the Pedders EP1201HD is what I would recommend for your application.

Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions or for Camro5 specials! Good luck and I'll talk to you soon!

Kind regards,

Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007

pnyklr · 09-16-2011, 02:26 PM

$582.47

-Funk

JDP Motorsports · 09-16-2011, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnyklr

$582.47

-Funk

You have to call, email or PM me for pricing!

Synner · 09-16-2011, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pnyklr

$582.47

-Funk

I did the energy suspension ones and they worked great at less than half that price. Their inserts seem to have issues but the fully bushings installed easily and work great. If you search for my name in this section you'll find my installation and impressions.

09-15-2011, 05:27 PM	#1
B-Rex Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 465 View My Garage	Subframe Question: Mounts? Bushings? What is the difference from Pfadt's Solid Mounts vs Pedders Bushings performance wise? Are they the same thing? Did I just ask a stupid question? __________________ B-Rex 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Hurst, LG, C.A.I., Flowmaster, Pfadt, Pedders, U.S. Gear/Axle Tech, LPW, SJM, Nitto, Nitrous Outlet, ZEX Last edited by B-Rex; 09-15-2011 at 05:52 PM.

09-15-2011, 07:01 PM	#3
TLSTWIN Romans10:9-13 Drives: /\yes, this is me/\ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Vermilion, Ohio Posts: 4,435	HUGE discussion about this not to long ago... do a search on it... I can't remember where the thread is. Pedders actually has 3 different styles, each a different "stiffness"... did I just say "stiffness"? EDIT Found the thread http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158634 __________________

09-15-2011, 07:05 PM	#4
B-Rex Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 465 View My Garage	ok. i keep going back and forth between the two parts, and that's what i thought the difference was i just wanted to make sure.... thanks though __________________ B-Rex 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Hurst, LG, C.A.I., Flowmaster, Pfadt, Pedders, U.S. Gear/Axle Tech, LPW, SJM, Nitto, Nitrous Outlet, ZEX

09-15-2011, 07:22 PM	#5
brantley847 v It bites. Drives: 2011 IBM 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,585	I did subframe bushings first.. good quality difference for handling. It is amazing how much difference a simple poly bushing can do. Based on my feelings of the subframe bushing, I went and did the full kit. Launch and braking are smoother... I wish I could explain it better, but I do not autocross so it is only DD applications. Road noise is very minimal and only noticeable when I hit the road reflectors. If you hit a bad road full of potholes, it is a rough ride, but beside that the ride comfort level stayed the same. Depends on what you want from this vehicle.. if it is a DD, I would stay away from solid. Buddy of mine races and his are solid. A bit of road noise in addition to a slightly rougher ride. Ask a vendor to be sure, I am happy where I am at with the poly and wouldn't want to go any "stiffer" __________________ 2011 2SS/RS Performance: 439 RWHP: 226/236 Comp Cam, Kooks 1-7/8, CAInc, Borla S type, Vmax TB, Rx Catch Can, Trans cooler, SLP 160 termo, Melling high volume, Eibach Springs/Sways 1" drop, Whiteline complete bushing kit.

09-15-2011, 07:42 PM	#6
B-Rex Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 465 View My Garage	mine is a DD, and i don't run auto cross or anything. the main concern is a good set up for the weekend 1/4 mile runs, but i still need to get back and forth every day. thanks for the feedback, was a pretty good description imo __________________ B-Rex 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Hurst, LG, C.A.I., Flowmaster, Pfadt, Pedders, U.S. Gear/Axle Tech, LPW, SJM, Nitto, Nitrous Outlet, ZEX

09-15-2011, 06:38 PM	#2
Eric Baker Drives: Black/Black 2SS/RS 6M Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Boston MA Posts: 987 View My Garage	They both replace the same part, but one is made of aluminum and one is polyurethane. One has no play at all, and one has very little. You have to decide how rigid you want your car and how much you want to spend. Either way they are worlds better than stock as far as performance.

09-16-2011, 12:30 AM	#7
JDP Motorsports Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/ 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sandy, Utah Posts: 3,256	I think both products are great and we do a lot of both here. I personally run the Pfadt mounts in my Camaro and wouldn't change them for anything. The Corvette utilizes solid mounting for their sub-frames and I had a minimal to no increase in NHV. I think both products are great however and the Pedders EP1201HD is what I would recommend for your application. Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions or for Camro5 specials! Good luck and I'll talk to you soon! Kind regards, Jordan Priestley 888.308.6007

09-16-2011, 02:26 PM	#8
pnyklr Drives: A Gift From My Wife Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Powder Springs, GA Posts: 1,557	$582.47 -Funk __________________ 2012 Convert 2SS/RS SW/IO LS3 - Build #1081 07/21/2011 - (3800) Order produced and vehicle is being prepared for shipping. 08/09/2011 - (4200) Shipped (vehicle is shipped to the dealer or interim point of delivery). 08/16/2011 - (5000) Vehicle has been delivered to dealer. 08/19/2011 - In my possession.

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