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PsychoZL1 · 08-04-2013, 01:56 PM

So I'm thinking about getting my Camaro SS supercharged and I have some questions. I already got a quote from my dealership now I'm just trying to decide if supercharging is the route I want to go.

I'm thinking about going with SLP's new TVS 2300 s/c kit. My questions are:

Will I be okay running my CAI intake, ported TB, and catback using just the tune from SLP? (I know a custom tune is definitely recommended)
If I will need a custom tune for all my bolt-on mods listed above, can I at least run the ported tb and catback exhaust using SLP's tune without any issues?
How reliable is this kit?
Can I run the 3.91 gears with a supercharger or is it best to run stock gearing?

Thanks in advance!

POWERFREAK · 08-04-2013, 02:04 PM

If the SLP "canned" tune is for an otherwise stock car, I wouldn't take the chance with it....get a real tune done (or get the SLP tune checked/tweaked), it will run better, not to mention be safer.

Can you run it with those gears? Sure you can....but IMO, with 3.91 gears, I'd recommend a centri SC (like paxton, vortech, pro-charger), they make their boost at higher rpm's, so traction w/ those gears will be easier.

old motorhead · 08-04-2013, 03:27 PM

Like p'freak mentioned, you need a custom tune if you change much of anything upstream of downstream of the blower.

The blower, itself, may be the most reliable thing under your hood. It won't give you any trouble. Now, the extra power it enables the motor to make, can be problemsome.

3.91 gears can give you issues if you don't have sense enough to modulate the throttle. After a while, you'll know (at least you should) what you can do and what you can't throttle wise. It's going to depend on what tire you're running and the pavement type too. If you want a mindless, stab the throttle and hold on setup, you've made a bad choice with the TVS and the gears. It's a whole lot of fun if you can master it though

Iam Broke · 08-04-2013, 04:06 PM

3.45's are fine with the SLP. I think the 3.91's would be a waste. I'm traction limited in 1st & 2nd already, 3rd would be with 3.91's.

Modified my K&N MAF tube to mate with the Blackwing tube included in the S/C kit. Loads of fun, Pulley'd down for 9 psi boost. Mods in my garage. Gotta custom tune it, the canned tune is stock only.

Mchlgrrsn · 08-04-2013, 04:11 PM

If your gonna spend money supercharging I would think you should get a good custom tune. As far as the gears go, put it on and see what you got. You can always get drag radials or drop down in gears. I wouldn't be surprised if drag radials hooked with some good driving skills. As stated above the supercharger is reliable it's the other stuff that can become unreliable. Any way you dice it up strapping in 100plus hp is going to stress something. It's the price we pay for having bad ass cars.

epstein · 08-04-2013, 05:03 PM

Id do Axles before Id do gears..... just my opinion. Also running Cats ...let alone Regular cats should be a concern.

Mchlgrrsn · 08-04-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by epstein

Id do Axles before Id do gears..... just my opinion. Also running Cats ...let alone Regular cats should be a concern.

Thought he already had the gears. You are correct

hrpiii · 08-04-2013, 06:46 PM

Tune will be "okay" till you get a 'good' tune by a professional. I have the new SLP, and Rotofab, kooks headers and cat back and runs solid. My next upgrade will be axles, then maybe gears. I have an auto.

Don't go above 3.45 gears, it will be plenty for that S/C.

PsychoZL1 · 08-04-2013, 10:55 PM

Thanks for the responses so far everyone! Looks like I'll definitely need a custom tune. I'll have to get a tuner and custom tune from Ted after I get the supercharger

...and I think I'll stick with the stock rear gears.

Also, have a few other additional questions:

How much rwhp can I realistically expect from the SLP TVS 2300 supercharger system with my current mods and a custom tune?
Will I need to replace the OEM cats with high-flow cats or no cats with the supercharger or will I be fine without upgrading the headers and cats?

Iam Broke · 08-05-2013, 06:38 AM

Ditch the cats altogether. I have a set of Kooks cats in the attic for inspection time. Most will melt and get blocked causing other issues.

AL1SS/RS · 08-05-2013, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsychoRS

Thanks for the responses so far everyone! Looks like I'll definitely need a custom tune. I'll have to get a tuner and custom tune from Ted after I get the supercharger

...and I think I'll stick with the stock rear gears.

Also, have a few other additional questions:

How much rwhp can I realistically expect from the SLP TVS 2300 supercharger system with my current mods and a custom tune?
Will I need to replace the OEM cats with high-flow cats or no cats with the supercharger or will I be fine without upgrading the headers and cats?

Don't know if your a stick or auto. But my set up is much
like yours and I'm at 550 with the LS3 and I'm cat delete.

Unreal · 08-05-2013, 04:03 PM

At high elevation, I would look into turbos. Either local shop up there can hook you up with a set.

KTWillys · 08-05-2013, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsychoRS

So I'm thinking about getting my Camaro SS supercharged and I have some questions. I already got a quote from my dealership now I'm just trying to decide if supercharging is the route I want to go.

I'm thinking about going with SLP's new TVS 2300 s/c kit. My questions are:

Will I be okay running my CAI intake, ported TB, and catback using just the tune from SLP? (I know a custom tune is definitely recommended)
If I will need a custom tune for all my bolt-on mods listed above, can I at least run the ported tb and catback exhaust using SLP's tune without any issues?
How reliable is this kit?
Can I run the 3.91 gears with a supercharger or is it best to run stock gearing?

Thanks in advance!

I have done the slp supercharger and it is a pretty good setup..
but for no reason use the slp tune for more than getting your car to the nearest good tuner..
the slp tune is a laughable joke.. I know this because I have seen it and used it on my car..
yeah your car will run but not for long or very well.
with the slp tune I got less than 400 HP and since the tuner well I now have 595 HP to the ground.. now that is a significant difference and zero knock issues.. and am able to run a much smoother tune as well.

also use a spark plug that is one heat range (6 instead of 5) colder than stock..

edit.. I also am running the stock exhaust manifolds with the stock factory cats..the factory cats will last a lot longer than any aftermarket cats. hands down and you will no emission issues either, I have no issues.
I do run an aftermarket custom exhaust that was made by a guy local to me.. Hanksville Hot Rods. excellent work.
I also live at 6000 feet..
if you have a decent CAI system it will work just fine..
and unless you intend of putting a set of slicks on the back your trans, and axles should be able to handle the HP.. don't beat it up and it will be fine

stanwilliams · 08-05-2013, 04:12 PM

You can run the stock cats if you want. I have for the last 15,000 miles with my whipple. I think the High flow cats are what fail with a blower. Just go catless when you upgrade to headers.

08-04-2013, 01:56 PM	#1
PsychoZL1 Drives: 2015 Challenger SRT Join Date: May 2011 Location: Roy, UT Posts: 1,002	Thinking about Supercharging, have qestions So I'm thinking about getting my Camaro SS supercharged and I have some questions. I already got a quote from my dealership now I'm just trying to decide if supercharging is the route I want to go. I'm thinking about going with SLP's new TVS 2300 s/c kit. My questions are: Will I be okay running my CAI intake, ported TB, and catback using just the tune from SLP? (I know a custom tune is definitely recommended) If I will need a custom tune for all my bolt-on mods listed above, can I at least run the ported tb and catback exhaust using SLP's tune without any issues? How reliable is this kit? Can I run the 3.91 gears with a supercharger or is it best to run stock gearing? Thanks in advance!

08-04-2013, 02:04 PM	#2
POWERFREAK I.AM. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS/A6 cammed-n-whippled Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NY Posts: 2,638	If the SLP "canned" tune is for an otherwise stock car, I wouldn't take the chance with it....get a real tune done (or get the SLP tune checked/tweaked), it will run better, not to mention be safer. Can you run it with those gears? Sure you can....but IMO, with 3.91 gears, I'd recommend a centri SC (like paxton, vortech, pro-charger), they make their boost at higher rpm's, so traction w/ those gears will be easier. __________________ NY5thgen.com Last edited by POWERFREAK; 08-04-2013 at 03:25 PM.

08-04-2013, 04:06 PM	#4
Iam Broke PHAT B33 Drives: 2012 TF3 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Dark of the Moon Posts: 1,460 View My Garage	3.45's are fine with the SLP. I think the 3.91's would be a waste. I'm traction limited in 1st & 2nd already, 3rd would be with 3.91's. Modified my K&N MAF tube to mate with the Blackwing tube included in the S/C kit. Loads of fun, Pulley'd down for 9 psi boost. Mods in my garage. Gotta custom tune it, the canned tune is stock only. __________________ Another 1 of 371 '12 T3 LS3 M6's built.

08-04-2013, 04:11 PM	#5
Mchlgrrsn Stroked and blown Drives: 2010 LS3 2SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Bridgewater, NJ Posts: 1,458 View My Garage	If your gonna spend money supercharging I would think you should get a good custom tune. As far as the gears go, put it on and see what you got. You can always get drag radials or drop down in gears. I wouldn't be surprised if drag radials hooked with some good driving skills. As stated above the supercharger is reliable it's the other stuff that can become unreliable. Any way you dice it up strapping in 100plus hp is going to stress something. It's the price we pay for having bad ass cars. __________________ LME 416 LS3 shortblock/Callies Compstar 4340 4"crank/Callies 6.125 H beams rods/Wiesco 4.07 forged pistons/Cam Motion custom LS1/LME ported heads /maggie TVS2300/I West 8rib 10%OD /3.2 pulley/OD cog drive/JRE tensioner/ID850 /ADM dual fuel/Kooks LT 1 7/8/magna flow2.5 /cat delete/Roto Fab CAI /MGW short throw /SPEC super twin clutch/G Force built trans,carbon syncro rear shaft upgrade /DSS 9"single CF DS /Strange 3.70/31 spline trutrac/MT DR's/earls oil cooler /tuned KHC

08-04-2013, 10:55 PM	#9
PsychoZL1 Drives: 2015 Challenger SRT Join Date: May 2011 Location: Roy, UT Posts: 1,002	Thanks for the responses so far everyone! Looks like I'll definitely need a custom tune. I'll have to get a tuner and custom tune from Ted after I get the supercharger ...and I think I'll stick with the stock rear gears. Also, have a few other additional questions: How much rwhp can I realistically expect from the SLP TVS 2300 supercharger system with my current mods and a custom tune? Will I need to replace the OEM cats with high-flow cats or no cats with the supercharger or will I be fine without upgrading the headers and cats?

08-04-2013, 03:27 PM	#3
old motorhead Drives: Maggie blown LS3 vette Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SE TX Posts: 1,490	Like p'freak mentioned, you need a custom tune if you change much of anything upstream of downstream of the blower. The blower, itself, may be the most reliable thing under your hood. It won't give you any trouble. Now, the extra power it enables the motor to make, can be problemsome. 3.91 gears can give you issues if you don't have sense enough to modulate the throttle. After a while, you'll know (at least you should) what you can do and what you can't throttle wise. It's going to depend on what tire you're running and the pavement type too. If you want a mindless, stab the throttle and hold on setup, you've made a bad choice with the TVS and the gears. It's a whole lot of fun if you can master it though

08-04-2013, 05:03 PM	#6
epstein Account Suspended Drives: SS/RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Transplanted from NYC..(ret. NYPD).Now in CT Posts: 904	Id do Axles before Id do gears..... just my opinion. Also running Cats ...let alone Regular cats should be a concern.

08-04-2013, 06:46 PM	#8
hrpiii AKA "Beefcake" Drives: 2023 ZL1 Sharkskin Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 8,528	Tune will be "okay" till you get a 'good' tune by a professional. I have the new SLP, and Rotofab, kooks headers and cat back and runs solid. My next upgrade will be axles, then maybe gears. I have an auto. Don't go above 3.45 gears, it will be plenty for that S/C.

08-05-2013, 06:38 AM	#10
Iam Broke PHAT B33 Drives: 2012 TF3 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Dark of the Moon Posts: 1,460 View My Garage	Ditch the cats altogether. I have a set of Kooks cats in the attic for inspection time. Most will melt and get blocked causing other issues. __________________ Another 1 of 371 '12 T3 LS3 M6's built.

08-05-2013, 04:03 PM	#12
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	At high elevation, I would look into turbos. Either local shop up there can hook you up with a set. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

08-05-2013, 04:12 PM	#14
stanwilliams 3000 hp 648 ci beast Drives: 86 Outlaw 10.5 Camaro, 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Marion, KS Posts: 154	You can run the stock cats if you want. I have for the last 15,000 miles with my whipple. I think the High flow cats are what fail with a blower. Just go catless when you upgrade to headers. __________________ 2SS/RS, LS3, 6M, IOM w/black hockey, IO interior, sunroof mods: ******** setup. Whipple supercharger....Need suspension upgrades now... 4" stroker kit, ARH, cam on my wish list.