Putting down up to 50hp more at the wheels without engine mods

[Info@PeddersUSA.com]

How many thousands of dollars does it take to add say 50hp to the wheels. Does it take 65-85hp at the engine to add the 50hp net? Let me present an alternative. Why not make the rear suspension significantly more effective? How?
1. upgrade critical bushings to control unwanted movement that sucks up hp
2. Upgrade rear coils or even Xa coil overs to control excess jounce.

Pedders offers specific kits for enhancing the back end to make it seriously more efficient in in putting down rear hp more efficiently. Here are some ideas:

Camaro Drag Package

DRAG PACKAGE II

DRAG XA

CAMARO JUSTICE RC

CAMARO HD BUSHING KIT

TO SEE ALL THE DRAG PACKAGES AT ONCE CLICK HERE


If you have any questions, just ask

thanks
mike
dms

[Info@PeddersUSA.com]

How many thousands of dollars does it take to add say 50hp to the wheels. Does it take 65-85hp at the engine to add the 50hp net? Let me present an alternative. Why not make the rear suspension significantly more effective? How?
1. upgrade critical bushings to control unwanted movement that sucks up hp
2. Upgrade rear coils or even Xa coil overs to control excess jounce.

Pedders offers specific kits for enhancing the back end to make it seriously more efficient in in putting down rear hp more efficiently. Here are some ideas:

Camaro Drag Package

DRAG PACKAGE II

DRAG XA

CAMARO JUSTICE RC
CAMARO HD BUSHING KIT

TO SEE ALL THE DRAG PACKAGES AT ONCE CLICK HERE


If you have any questions, just ask

thanks
mike
dms

[Kyle2k]

Uhhh, is this proven in any way? I completely understand the logic of it- but to claim that big of a reduction in drivetrain loss is kind of out in left field.

[HondaPowered]

It would be awesome to see some proof!!! :-)

[danhr]

........ forgive me if I have no sense of humor, but this is a joke, right?

[thecamaroguy]

The retail price at the top of the page is different than the retail price at the bottom of the page...

Plus, the depoist is the same as the bottom retail price...

[montej23]

Well this will be interesting to see, Id like to see some proof of the increase HP at the rear tires.

[Bruce@raymondsperformance]

I know what you are saying Mike.I have seen this on the road course many times,a good handling car can make better use of the power it already has because without control who cares how much power it makes.It may very well translate to 50 hp give or take.but it is something no dyno is going to show.

[Mr Twisty]

You guys know what he's getting at.

Ride in a supercharged car with no suspension upgrades, then let Pete take you for a ride... If you don't know what he's talking about, you will after that.

[kga10734]

Originally Posted by dms

How many thousands of dollars does it take to add say 50hp to the wheels. Does it take 65-85hp at the engine to add the 50hp net? Let me present an alternative. Why not make the rear suspension significantly more effective? How?
1. upgrade critical bushings to control unwanted movement that sucks up hp
2. Upgrade rear coils or even Xa coil overs to control excess jounce.

Pedders offers specific kits for enhancing the back end to make it seriously more efficient in in putting down rear hp more efficiently. Here are some ideas:

Camaro Drag Package

DRAG PACKAGE II

DRAG XA

CAMARO JUSTICE RC
CAMARO HD BUSHING KIT

TO SEE ALL THE DRAG PACKAGES AT ONCE CLICK HERE


If you have any questions, just ask

thanks
mike
dms

My guess is $1,000 to $6,000 since those are the prices of the kits you listed.

[sneakyquickSS]

Im sorry but did I miss something? I checked those links and none of them went to a mustang or honda go fast sticker retailer. I was even looking for the tornado link but couldnt find that either.

[Tomato]

Couldn't you measure this using the G-Tech system? If, in fact, the suspension upgrades reduce drivetrain loss and put more power to the wheels, a simple accelerometer based meter should work.

I believe it will add improved power in certain areas of the RPM / throttle position / suspension transition range, but 50HP is definitely a lofty claim. Suspension improvements are well worth the money to me, but I am a road course driver, and this is just an odd way to present the case.

[pnyklr]

Are you saying with one of those packages I will see 50 more HP on the dyno?

-Funk

[Info@PeddersUSA.com]

Originally Posted by thecamaroguy

The retail price at the top of the page is different than the retail price at the bottom of the page...

Plus, the depoist is the same as the bottom retail price...

You are correct. The price on the top is full retail, the price listed below is a system discount. Now you can pay the $$ amount at the top if it makes you happier. LOL

And guys,
this is not a joke!

So if you had a stock Camaro and took in on a track and turned a 1.45 second lap, How much horsepower would it take you to knock off 5-6 seconds off your lap time? I bet the cost of hp will be seriously higher than the cost of suspension. I would speculate you would need between 25 and 150hp additional at the rear wheels to get that kind of improvement with engine alone.

We have done testing on the GTO at the drag strip. It was not uncommon to get a .1 to .2 second faster 60 ft with our set up suspension

We have a Magnum owner that road races his magnum. By just putting on our complete bushing package, he took off 2.5 seconds off his best lap ever at Laguna Seca in Mountain View.

We took of 3.5 seconds I believe at Gingerman on the Nickey Camaro, not really set up completely just by doing our Xa coil overs with no proper alignment. So is 125hp additonal at the rear to get this lap time by engine alone?

thanks
mike
dms
mike
dms