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mcgrath280 · 05-29-2017, 01:27 PM

I bought a project zl1. The front was ran into a dirt bank. It damaged the welded bar on the front subframe. I have searched and googled everything I can think of and looked in the chiltons manual. I can't even find the subframe. I'm questioning if I'm even calling it the correct thing. This is the only thing that is frustrating me with my project. Can anyone identify this or give me a link or a name of what to search.

olblue75 · 05-29-2017, 02:30 PM

Need a better pic of what attaches to it or what it attaches to.

mcgrath280 · 05-29-2017, 02:54 PM

Better picture.

Avenging Orange · 05-29-2017, 04:30 PM

How about checking with one of the GM parts suppliers online. You can search by numbers or sections of the car.

mcgrath280 · 05-29-2017, 04:34 PM

I assure you I have tried. I ordered a bunch of parts online using the part breakdowns provided. I can't find it.

blake-b · 05-29-2017, 05:09 PM

Since it is welded, it is likely part of the front subframe that cannot be ordered without buying a complete subframe. It isn't listed under any of the replacement sheet metal schematics:
Part 1:
http://www.wholesalegmpartsonline.co...rimLevel=25857

Part 2:
http://www.wholesalegmpartsonline.co...rimLevel=25857

Part 3:
http://www.wholesalegmpartsonline.co...rimLevel=25857

Part 4:
http://www.wholesalegmpartsonline.co...rimLevel=25857

In that case, your options are:

-buy a subframe from a car wrecked in the rear
-have a competent welder/chassis shop cut out the damaged part(s) and weld in new piece(s)
-buy an aftermarket subframe such as the extreme innovations offering

The middle option of cut/replace will be the cheapest and easiest. Once it is painted, no one but you would probably know.

Here is a schematic. It doesn't list the subframe part number though:

mcgrath280 · 05-29-2017, 05:38 PM

Thank you so very much. Now I know my option. I'm a certified welder. I will get one bent. Again thanks I am very grateful.

Synner · 05-31-2017, 02:21 PM

If you're worried about further front subframe damage and want to totally replace it you can swap it out by building a engine stand piece to support the motor. Then drop subframe and swap over suspension bits. Doable on jack stands but truck height is best. I built one and I'm not certified at anything, ha.

This doesn't show the straps that I wrapped about the engine mounts but you get the idea. GM wants $1250 for their factory support stand used in the service manuals, screw that. $30 with a ton of steel left over.

05-29-2017, 01:27 PM	#1
mcgrath280 Drives: 2013 zl1 Join Date: May 2017 Location: Virginia Posts: 11	Front subframe? question I bought a project zl1. The front was ran into a dirt bank. It damaged the welded bar on the front subframe. I have searched and googled everything I can think of and looked in the chiltons manual. I can't even find the subframe. I'm questioning if I'm even calling it the correct thing. This is the only thing that is frustrating me with my project. Can anyone identify this or give me a link or a name of what to search. Attached Images

05-29-2017, 02:30 PM	#2
olblue75 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clarksville Tennesse. Posts: 6,064	Need a better pic of what attaches to it or what it attaches to. __________________ Orange Krush II 1LE Front sway bar, Splitter, shocks and struts, Z28 dual mode mufflers, Intake, UCA Bushings, and Toresen 3.91 Diff. 1 piece DSS Drive Shaft, ZL1/C7 Calipers, and 32mm JPSS Rear Bar. ASC race spec splitter and wicker. 6th Gen M017 Wheels. Stainless Works 1 7/8 LTs. DSE and PAFDT Suspension components.

05-29-2017, 02:54 PM	#3
mcgrath280 Drives: 2013 zl1 Join Date: May 2017 Location: Virginia Posts: 11	Better picture. Attached Images

05-29-2017, 04:30 PM	#4
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	How about checking with one of the GM parts suppliers online. You can search by numbers or sections of the car. __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

05-29-2017, 05:09 PM	#6
blake-b Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,205	Since it is welded, it is likely part of the front subframe that cannot be ordered without buying a complete subframe. It isn't listed under any of the replacement sheet metal schematics: Part 1: http://www.wholesalegmpartsonline.co...rimLevel=25857 Part 2: http://www.wholesalegmpartsonline.co...rimLevel=25857 Part 3: http://www.wholesalegmpartsonline.co...rimLevel=25857 Part 4: http://www.wholesalegmpartsonline.co...rimLevel=25857 In that case, your options are: -buy a subframe from a car wrecked in the rear -have a competent welder/chassis shop cut out the damaged part(s) and weld in new piece(s) -buy an aftermarket subframe such as the extreme innovations offering The middle option of cut/replace will be the cheapest and easiest. Once it is painted, no one but you would probably know. Here is a schematic. It doesn't list the subframe part number though: Attached Images Last edited by blake-b; 05-29-2017 at 05:23 PM.

05-29-2017, 04:34 PM	#5
mcgrath280 Drives: 2013 zl1 Join Date: May 2017 Location: Virginia Posts: 11	I assure you I have tried. I ordered a bunch of parts online using the part breakdowns provided. I can't find it.

05-29-2017, 05:38 PM	#7
mcgrath280 Drives: 2013 zl1 Join Date: May 2017 Location: Virginia Posts: 11	Thank you so very much. Now I know my option. I'm a certified welder. I will get one bent. Again thanks I am very grateful.

05-31-2017, 02:21 PM	#8
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	If you're worried about further front subframe damage and want to totally replace it you can swap it out by building a engine stand piece to support the motor. Then drop subframe and swap over suspension bits. Doable on jack stands but truck height is best. I built one and I'm not certified at anything, ha. This doesn't show the straps that I wrapped about the engine mounts but you get the idea. GM wants $1250 for their factory support stand used in the service manuals, screw that. $30 with a ton of steel left over.