09-04-2014, 06:01 AM | #15 |
Cost less than my deductible. ..and definitely way less than a new engine....bite the bullet and get it....prevention better than cure....
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09-04-2014, 12:18 PM | #16 |
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09-05-2014, 07:31 PM | #17 |
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This subject is almost as controversial as the CAI subject. They probably help some however how much may be somewhat overstated in some cases. It is true that DI engines are more prone to intake and valve build up because the fuel is injected after the intake valves however some assumptions are made with these cans that may not be totally true, One being that all of the liquid you catch in the can will end up stuck on the intake parts causing build up. Some probably will but some will most likely still end up getting by the intake valve and be burned off in the combustion process. How much is hard to say and probably varies depending on many things. The only real way to know is to pull your intake off and inspect everything down to the valves and see how much build up is actually in there. I have seen some of the horror pictures on the net but I fear many of those situation don't apply to our cars. Just food for thought here, have not decided if I'm going to add one yet or not.
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09-05-2014, 09:34 PM | #18 | |
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09-05-2014, 11:11 PM | #20 |
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I just changed my oil yesterday and my catch can caught 5oz over 3.5k miles (I made the mistake of using Royal Purple). Usually it doesn't catch this much honestly.
Another thing to realize. "Carbon build up". Carbon implies post burn. Direct injection does not have that problem much (if at all). Oil and sludge building up on the intake valves and in the manifold is the issue. That's what the catch can prevents.
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09-06-2014, 04:55 AM | #21 |
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So, you are crediting RP with the higher levels in your CC? Interesting.
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09-06-2014, 09:28 AM | #22 |
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Just do it! Get an upper induction cleaning first.
Oil in the intake manifold and carbon on the valves disturbs the airflow. Over time it will cause a rough idle. When you are in a rough idle state you will have diminished acceleration across the power band. Take your throttle body off and stick your finger into the manifold and wipe around the opening. You will most likely have a good deal of oil on your finger. Put your finger into the catch basin just inside the opening. There will probably be a lot of oil in there. All this oil is just the very tip of the iceberg. If you want to get your new car performance back you need to clean all of this oil out. Once you clean it out, the catch can will help prevent it from happening again. On these engines the buildup on the valves turns to carbon due to the heat.
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09-07-2014, 09:00 PM | #23 |
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Being that I've had over 25k miles only using Mobil 1 with 50% less in my can over almost twice the time per oil change, and then this happens one time I use Royal Purple? Yes, actually. Lol
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09-07-2014, 09:06 PM | #24 |
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I would love to see some pictures of the intake and valves on an LFX with about 50k on it with no catch can. I am the curious type.
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09-08-2014, 05:43 PM | #25 |
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Honest to god most simple answer....
Needed: no Beneficial if you plan to keep car in long run: yes
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09-08-2014, 05:55 PM | #26 |
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Some people will never be convinced no matter how much empirical evidence. Good luck with your setup.
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