Supercharge the 1LE?? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

gnturboray · 03-27-2012, 11:28 PM

Since the announcement of the 1LE, would you future ZL1 owners cancel your order and slap a TVS2300 on top of a 1LE and call it a day?

S3XPanther · 03-27-2012, 11:31 PM

I doubt it

S3XPanther · 03-27-2012, 11:32 PM

ZL1 already comes with forged portions of the engine already, so it's still a stronger setup.

FRSTR90 · 03-28-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by S3XPanther

ZL1 already comes with forged portions of the engine already, so it's still a stronger setup.

If warranty means anything to you.. go with the ZL1. 580HP with an all forged motor with a factory warranty, what more could you want? On top of that, 6 piston brembos up front and magnetic ride control... from what I've gathered, there is no word on whether or not the 1LE will have the MRC. Besides, the ZL1 looks awesome! the 1LE just looks like any other modded SS. I, personally, do not care for all of the black accents on the 1LE.

The IOM Ninja · 03-28-2012, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FRSTR90

If warranty means anything to you.. go with the ZL1. 580HP with an all forged motor with a factory warranty, what more could you want? On top of that, 6 piston brembos up front and magnetic ride control... from what I've gathered, there is no word on whether or not the 1LE will have the MRC. Besides, the ZL1 looks awesome! the 1LE just looks like any other modded SS. I, personally, do not care for all of the black accents on the 1LE.

The LSA isn't even close to fully forged......

....in fact that is a major complaint I have with it....

hightower · 03-28-2012, 02:08 PM

Biggest thing for me about the ZL1 vs a supercharged 1LE is the suspension and more importantly, the engine.

This is a typical "slap a supercharger on it and you'll have a *insert car here*" kind of assumption. Its NOT the same car.

I doubt any of the people who have ZL1s on order will cancel them to wait another year for the 1LE. They've waited long enough for a ZL1, why give up now because of a lesser camaro?

Z4me · 03-28-2012, 02:17 PM

No not switching the ZL1 has most of what I was waiting for. But the 1LE will help to fill the void between the SS and ZL1 and you get to have a warranty to boot. They should have used some unique rims on the 1LE imo, nice looking car for the money.
In addition alot of R&D went into the ZL1 so that alll the parts worked well togather. To slap on a charger to the 1LE and expect the same results, ain"t going to happen.

nak3dsnake · 03-28-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

The LSA isn't even close to fully forged......

....in fact that is a major complaint I have with it....

The crank is forged steel, rods are forged steel, pistons are... hyper-eutectic cast aluminum...

daveagogo1 · 03-28-2012, 02:47 PM

I'd rather just stick with a ZL1 and call it a day as opposed to supercharging a 1LE and have zero warranty and approach the cost of what i could have just bought in the first place.

ffrcobra_65 · 03-28-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nak3dsnake

The crank is forged steel, rods are forged steel, pistons are... hyper-eutectic cast aluminum...

*DGthe3* · 04-02-2012, 05:45 PM

I'd rather have a ZL1 or a cammed 1LE than a supercharged 1LE.

GEEo · 04-02-2012, 05:56 PM

The 1LE and the ZL1 are two different cars.

Fraxum · 04-02-2012, 09:46 PM

I do not think ZL1 owners will want to switch back to a modded 1LE. They are getting a more sophisticated track/street suspension, bigger brakes, a stronger differential, a different hood, better resale, a warranty, and a cooler badge along with that LSA.

However OP you make a great point. The 1LE is the perfect base for those who want to mod their Camaro. The 1LE is at least 200 pounds lighter than the ZL1. If you add full bolt-ons and a cam the LS3 can get pretty close to the same RWHP as the ZL1. So yes, you can have ZL1 performance at a bargain price. But you will not have a ZL1.

However, if you want to go further with the LS3 you can. This weekend at Atco there was a stock block forged LS3 FI powered Camaro putting out 1,100 HP at the crank running 9.30s. So if you want to start modding the LS3 the sky is the limit.

2cnd chance · 04-02-2012, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gnturboray

Since the announcement of the 1LE, would you future ZL1 owners cancel your order and slap a TVS2300 on top of a 1LE and call it a day?

Apples and oranges.

03-27-2012, 11:28 PM	#1
gnturboray Drives: SIM 2010 2SS/RS LS3 LPE750 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Mckinney, Texas Posts: 764	Supercharge the 1LE?? Since the announcement of the 1LE, would you future ZL1 owners cancel your order and slap a TVS2300 on top of a 1LE and call it a day?

03-27-2012, 11:31 PM	#2
S3XPanther by Odeon Drives: '12 SS/RS A6 IOM SOLD, '13 1LE IOM Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Good question Posts: 1,707	I doubt it __________________ "It works 60% of the time, every time." "Some say it's a waste of time, others say it's an incredible waste of time." "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." 2013 IOM SS/RS - 1LE. Born 5/6/2013 (1 of 32 1SS IOM 1LE's)

03-27-2012, 11:32 PM	#3
S3XPanther by Odeon Drives: '12 SS/RS A6 IOM SOLD, '13 1LE IOM Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Good question Posts: 1,707	ZL1 already comes with forged portions of the engine already, so it's still a stronger setup. __________________ "It works 60% of the time, every time." "Some say it's a waste of time, others say it's an incredible waste of time." "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." 2013 IOM SS/RS - 1LE. Born 5/6/2013 (1 of 32 1SS IOM 1LE's)

03-28-2012, 02:08 PM	#6
hightower LS3 Black Widow Drives: 2012 45th 2SS LS3 and 1968 Mustang Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Madison, GA Posts: 4,557	Biggest thing for me about the ZL1 vs a supercharged 1LE is the suspension and more importantly, the engine. This is a typical "slap a supercharger on it and you'll have a insert car here" kind of assumption. Its NOT the same car. I doubt any of the people who have ZL1s on order will cancel them to wait another year for the 1LE. They've waited long enough for a ZL1, why give up now because of a lesser camaro? __________________ My Camaro Story

03-28-2012, 02:17 PM	#7
Z4me Drives: 2013 ZL1 IOM Vin #169 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,953	No not switching the ZL1 has most of what I was waiting for. But the 1LE will help to fill the void between the SS and ZL1 and you get to have a warranty to boot. They should have used some unique rims on the 1LE imo, nice looking car for the money. In addition alot of R&D went into the ZL1 so that alll the parts worked well togather. To slap on a charger to the 1LE and expect the same results, ain"t going to happen. __________________

04-02-2012, 05:45 PM	#11
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	I'd rather have a ZL1 or a cammed 1LE than a supercharged 1LE. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

04-02-2012, 05:56 PM	#12
GEEo OKCamaros Drives: 4 banger Diesel Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Philippines Posts: 4,572	The 1LE and the ZL1 are two different cars.

04-02-2012, 09:46 PM	#13
Fraxum Drives: a M6 LT1 ordered From Becky!!! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,520	I do not think ZL1 owners will want to switch back to a modded 1LE. They are getting a more sophisticated track/street suspension, bigger brakes, a stronger differential, a different hood, better resale, a warranty, and a cooler badge along with that LSA. However OP you make a great point. The 1LE is the perfect base for those who want to mod their Camaro. The 1LE is at least 200 pounds lighter than the ZL1. If you add full bolt-ons and a cam the LS3 can get pretty close to the same RWHP as the ZL1. So yes, you can have ZL1 performance at a bargain price. But you will not have a ZL1. However, if you want to go further with the LS3 you can. This weekend at Atco there was a stock block forged LS3 FI powered Camaro putting out 1,100 HP at the crank running 9.30s. So if you want to start modding the LS3 the sky is the limit. __________________ "Democracy Dies in Darkness" My LT1 Keeper ..... ..... My Car Blog CarPlayList, a free App to build USB and Android Music drives.

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