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CaMario · 05-07-2009, 01:41 PM

TORONTO (Reuters) - Canada has given the Canadian Auto Workers until May 15 to reach a new concession deal with General Motors, or the company will not receive long-term government funding and its Canadian operations will be in jeopardy, the head of the union said on Thursday.

Hoping this is just postering. . . . . .

Brokinarrow · 05-07-2009, 01:43 PM

When was that delivered? Can't have been today, that would be way short notice.

PQ · 05-07-2009, 01:44 PM

CaMario · 05-07-2009, 01:45 PM

Look slike it. Here's link to the story

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/0...ss_us_gm_union

fdjizm · 05-07-2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaMario

TORONTO (Reuters) - Canada has given the Canadian Auto Workers until May 15 to reach a new concession deal with General Motors, or the company will not receive long-term government funding and its Canadian operations will be in jeopardy, the head of the union said on Thursday.

Hoping this is just postering. . . . . .

interesting...

Quote:

Originally Posted by alienjimmy

Another interesting point, GM has (to date) not tapped the Canadian government for any line of credit although Chrysler has.

99SSragtop · 05-07-2009, 02:13 PM

Ken Lewenza told reporters at a news conference that the federal and Ontario governments had forced the negotiations to happen, in an ultimatum the CAW president said caught him completely by surprise.

"We were called to a meeting yesterday that involved ourselves, General Motors, federal and provincial officials -- a very unusual meeting to say the least," Lewenza said just after 11 a.m. on Thursday morning.

"I never dreamed that our labour relations in the auto industry would come to this point," he continued. "The government folks gave us an ultimatum ... we have been instructed to go back into bargaining with General Motors."

The union has been told it must come to a new agreement with GM by May 15, Lewenza said, only two months after a similar labour deal was previously negotiated that left the Detroit automaker "fully competitive with the offshore automakers."

"Now the governments are telling us to go back to do it all over again," he said.

Lewenza said the fact that autoworkers have been forced into voting on a third contract in the same year-long period puts "the credibility of the whole process" into question.

The governments have said that if the CAW can come to a deal with GM, they will support the next step of the restructuring process.

If not, the governments "will provide no financial support and GM Canada will be liquidated," Lewenza said.

"No deal and we are liquidated. The plants close, the jobs are lost, the retiree benefits are gone and the pensions are sacrificed. This is an unbelievable situation."
But Lewenza said the CAW members working for GM would reluctantly, he stressed, go into these negotiations in order to keep the automaker afloat.

"We will ensure that GM's plants are fully competitive with the competition on cost and quality," he said.

"We will do everything we can, despite the betrayal that our members feel today, to reach a new deal by May 15."

Lewenza said the union, however, will not turn its backs on the retired CAW who should not be asked to make sacrifices for their former company.

And he said he will call on thousands of GM workers and retirees to "reactivate" the pension responsibilities of both the struggling Detroit automaker and the government, by making it clear that retired autoworkers are not responsible for the current financial issues.

"Reactivate the responsibility of General Motors and the responsibility of the provincial government, relative to pensions, to make sure that we have jobs for the future and our pensioners are protected, as they thought they were, when they left the workplace," Lewenza said. "Tell them that they are human beings, not legacy costs."

PQ · 05-07-2009, 02:14 PM

Need a merge.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21761

2010SLVRBULIT · 05-07-2009, 02:36 PM

WTF..is the Camaro/GM doomed from the start?

Starting US-Camaro plants even considered an option(creating jobs)?

It's really not rocket science..

PQ · 05-07-2009, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010SLVRBULIT

WTF..is the Camaro/GM doomed from the start?

Starting US-Camaro plants even considered an option(creating jobs)?

It's really not rocket science..

The cost of moving or retooling a plant to do it would be enormous. This car needed to get to production.

Smokintires · 05-07-2009, 02:50 PM

Ah Sh*t!

garagelogic · 05-07-2009, 02:56 PM

I wouldn't worry too much about it. The CAW has all but said they will concede to the demands.

It's about time somebody stood up and reiterated the fact that the employees have a job at the employers descretion and not the other way around.

canadianiroc · 05-07-2009, 03:09 PM

watch the news conference by Ken and the CAW

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...TorontoNewHome

ezlock83 · 05-07-2009, 08:07 PM

I read that GM and the CAW must reach a deal by next friday or the camaro production would be effected. So what the heck? I mean its like everything in the world effects the camaro right?

canadianiroc · 05-07-2009, 08:21 PM

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...TorontoNewHome

05-07-2009, 01:41 PM	#1
CaMario Drives: Mazda 3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 66	UH-OH! TORONTO (Reuters) - Canada has given the Canadian Auto Workers until May 15 to reach a new concession deal with General Motors, or the company will not receive long-term government funding and its Canadian operations will be in jeopardy, the head of the union said on Thursday. Hoping this is just postering. . . . . .

05-07-2009, 01:43 PM	#2
Brokinarrow Drives: 2012 Honda NC700x Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Indianola, IA Posts: 5,317 View My Garage	When was that delivered? Can't have been today, that would be way short notice. __________________

05-07-2009, 01:44 PM	#3
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05-07-2009, 02:13 PM	#6
99SSragtop Drives: SS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 51	CAW forced back to talk to its members, Gulp. Ken Lewenza told reporters at a news conference that the federal and Ontario governments had forced the negotiations to happen, in an ultimatum the CAW president said caught him completely by surprise. "We were called to a meeting yesterday that involved ourselves, General Motors, federal and provincial officials -- a very unusual meeting to say the least," Lewenza said just after 11 a.m. on Thursday morning. "I never dreamed that our labour relations in the auto industry would come to this point," he continued. "The government folks gave us an ultimatum ... we have been instructed to go back into bargaining with General Motors." The union has been told it must come to a new agreement with GM by May 15, Lewenza said, only two months after a similar labour deal was previously negotiated that left the Detroit automaker "fully competitive with the offshore automakers." "Now the governments are telling us to go back to do it all over again," he said. Lewenza said the fact that autoworkers have been forced into voting on a third contract in the same year-long period puts "the credibility of the whole process" into question. The governments have said that if the CAW can come to a deal with GM, they will support the next step of the restructuring process. If not, the governments "will provide no financial support and GM Canada will be liquidated," Lewenza said. "No deal and we are liquidated. The plants close, the jobs are lost, the retiree benefits are gone and the pensions are sacrificed. This is an unbelievable situation." But Lewenza said the CAW members working for GM would reluctantly, he stressed, go into these negotiations in order to keep the automaker afloat. "We will ensure that GM's plants are fully competitive with the competition on cost and quality," he said. "We will do everything we can, despite the betrayal that our members feel today, to reach a new deal by May 15." Lewenza said the union, however, will not turn its backs on the retired CAW who should not be asked to make sacrifices for their former company. And he said he will call on thousands of GM workers and retirees to "reactivate" the pension responsibilities of both the struggling Detroit automaker and the government, by making it clear that retired autoworkers are not responsible for the current financial issues. "Reactivate the responsibility of General Motors and the responsibility of the provincial government, relative to pensions, to make sure that we have jobs for the future and our pensioners are protected, as they thought they were, when they left the workplace," Lewenza said. "Tell them that they are human beings, not legacy costs."

05-07-2009, 02:14 PM	#7
PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,716 View My Garage	Need a merge. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21761 __________________

05-07-2009, 01:45 PM	#4
CaMario Drives: Mazda 3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 66	Look slike it. Here's link to the story http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/0...ss_us_gm_union

05-07-2009, 02:36 PM	#8
2010SLVRBULIT Drives: G5(LLT) & C6(LS3) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MARS Posts: 7,527 View My Garage	WTF..is the Camaro/GM doomed from the start? Starting US-Camaro plants even considered an option(creating jobs)? It's really not rocket science..

05-07-2009, 02:50 PM	#10
Smokintires Great Member Drives: 2010 Victory Red Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: lindenhurst,NY Posts: 333	Ah Sh*t!

05-07-2009, 02:56 PM	#11
garagelogic Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Shelby GT500 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,686 View My Garage	I wouldn't worry too much about it. The CAW has all but said they will concede to the demands. It's about time somebody stood up and reiterated the fact that the employees have a job at the employers descretion and not the other way around.

05-07-2009, 03:09 PM	#12
canadianiroc SUPPORT THE DETROIT 3 Drives: 1985 IROC-Z28 Join Date: May 2009 Location: ONTARIO CANADA Posts: 41	watch the news conference by Ken and the CAW http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/loc...TorontoNewHome

05-07-2009, 08:07 PM	#13
ezlock83 Drives: 2LT SIM/RS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Monroe, Louisiana Posts: 154	GM AND CAW NEGOTIATIONS I read that GM and the CAW must reach a deal by next friday or the camaro production would be effected. So what the heck? I mean its like everything in the world effects the camaro right? __________________ Picking up my car saturday Eric Lockridge 2010 Camaro 2LT SIM RS Appearance, Auto

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