04-11-2012, 08:06 PM | #1 |
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I need a some outside advice!
So I currently own a 2011 Camaro RS LT, and soon may be given the opportunity to upgrade to an SS. My current Camaro is an automatic and im SERIOUSLY contemplating going with a LS3 instead of the L99. Reasons being the urge for modding and the "belief" that i would have fun driving a manual.
By modding i mean light mods, like CAI, and exhaust stuff. I know i could mod a L99 but the thought of having to get a Tune just to get rid of the annoying AFM discourages me because i don't want to kill the warranty right away. Problem is i've never owned a manual car. And Im wondering if my first manual should be one of my dream cars. I was taught mildly for a couple of days by a good friend but that was almost 7-8 years ago. Where I live I wouldn't really call heavy with stop and go traffic. We have stoplights each a mile away from another. I say this bc i hear thats one of the downsides to a manual. So i guess what im trying to get to is; Is if you were in my position would you take the dive and get the LS3 and learn (or relearn) on it how to drive stick? OR be safe and go with the L99 |
04-11-2012, 08:09 PM | #2 |
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You can drive a stick. The directions are right on the console or the knob...millions of people do it successfully on a daily basis!!...lol
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04-11-2012, 08:27 PM | #3 |
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Great choice on going with the LS3. However I would recommend you to rent a car with a manual transmission or borrow a friends car and "train" a little to get the flow going again.
It can't hurt and at least you will regain your confidence in driving a manual |
04-11-2012, 08:29 PM | #4 |
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Since u dont have alot of traffic get the manual and these cars arent that hard to learn to drive in and have a soft clutch.
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04-11-2012, 08:31 PM | #5 |
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Get the M6 and don't look back. They are alot of fun to drive.
Just budget for a shifter replacement. I couldn't stand the factory shifter knob. Felt like I was shifting with a softball.
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04-11-2012, 09:00 PM | #7 | |
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04-11-2012, 09:12 PM | #9 |
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i was in the exact same mind set. haven't driven stick but really wanted to upgrade from LT to SS but due to the crappy trade-in value of these cars i would've been upside down so no go :( maybe in a couple years
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04-11-2012, 09:23 PM | #10 |
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I have a lt m6 and I wouldn't have it any other way. Even if I had an SS I would still get a M6. Where I live I don't start and stop much and perfer driving a manual over an automatic.
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04-11-2012, 11:11 PM | #11 |
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I used to drive a '56 Chevy BelAir, 300hp/327, with standard trans in San Francisco. Hills and traffic kept you busy, but I wouldn't have traded to an auto for anything. Older now and I've gotten lazy, but the most fun is doing it yourself.
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04-11-2012, 11:50 PM | #12 |
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If your planning on serious mods, the LS3 is the "Easiest" place to start. I say that because if you get really serious with the L99, you really need to do the valvetrain conversion which is a decent expense just to get to the level of reliability of the LS3.
The LS3 is supposed to be a bit stouter on the bottom end. I think this would only come into play if you plan on racing your car hard. For a street car, I think both cracks are more then up to the challange. Personally, I think it comes down to if you want to shift all the time or not. I did not want to have to shift all the time and love the choice I made with the L99. The L99 is also more efficent putting the power to the ground and is much more forgiving to the drivetrain behind the engine, especially axles then the LS3 but if your modding heavy, you will probably upgrade these anyway. Simply put, both engines can be modded to produce scary power, it really comes down to personal preference about the manual shifting or just sitting back and enjoying the ride.
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04-12-2012, 12:05 AM | #13 | |
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Shifting your own gears is enormous fun....when you're in the mood for it and traffic doesn't get in your way. That said, I love to be able to just sit back, relax, and cruise. Then, simply mash the gas and I'm gone
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04-12-2012, 12:14 AM | #14 |
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Get the M6. They are easy to learn on and not as bad as they are made out to be in daily traffic. Been driving a manual camaro daily for 11 years and would never go back. They are LOTS of fun!
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