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cc-rider · 07-17-2015, 10:23 AM

I installed my Hurst shifter...and all of a sudden got a bad grind when shifting from 1st to 2nd gear. But it only happens when I'm getting on it, and shift at higher RPM's. If I granny shift, it doesn't happen. If I try a really hard and fast shift...its really bad.

Never experienced this with the stock shifter. The car has only 3400 miles on it.

I've read a few threads here with people having the same thing happen. But I didn't see any concrete resolution to the issue. Did anyone ever discover the issue here?

I love my Hurst shifter...but I may have to go back to stock.

Punisher_ATX · 07-17-2015, 10:32 AM

The 2010's had an early style synchro in 2nd gear on the tr6060. it causes grinding when up and downshifting because its thin it dost always go down even. the fix is a synchro from a newer car. Mine was minimal but the Hurst sifter made it more noticeable fr sure

BenningJ · 07-17-2015, 12:04 PM

I have a 2013 with the non-factory Hurst shifter. Every so often I have this same issue. 90% of the time I can shift it as fast as possible and the other 10% it sounds like I'm about to blow up my synchro.

revived · 07-17-2015, 12:14 PM

push the clutch in faster

I still cant see why anyone would go aftermarket the stock shifter isn't at all a long throw. I actually love it.

BenningJ · 07-17-2015, 01:20 PM

I have thought about installing the factory shifter to see if that fixes the problem.

cc-rider · 07-17-2015, 03:56 PM

Yeah I'm thinking about going back to stock too. I never had a problem grinding on fast aggressive shifts before I put in the Hurst. I did the Hurst more out of nostalgia and "cool" factor than I did for the short throw. As mentioned, the stock shifter isn't exactly the 12" throws that the old 60's cars sometimes had.

Kind of makes me wonder how Hurst could leave this problem hang out there. Camaro and Hurst shifters are blood brothers and belong together.

I wonder if the Hurst shifter raises the linkage connection point a bit higher to achieve that shorter throw? And second gear does not like that. My only theory as of now. I can power shift all the other gears and never get a grind.

thahemp · 07-20-2015, 02:57 PM

Try shifting without taking your foot all the way off the gas. I have recently discovered that mine doesn't grind when I leave my foot down and keep the RPMs up.

macSS · 07-20-2015, 03:15 PM

Install a MGW...wont regret it...

BurnedRubber · 07-20-2015, 07:59 PM

An MGW shifter wont fix this issue, the only fix is a new synchro.

MightymouseSS · 07-22-2015, 05:48 AM

I've tried different things to get rid of this issue. I have amsoil aft in the tranny which helped smoother shifts but doesn't cure the grind. I also have a separate reservoir and that helped a lil bit but still is present just not as bad. I recently replaced my clutch with a mcleod twin disc and a new oem slave with billet bearing support and i can say the issue is about 90% gone ill do still have a occasional grind if i really rev the piss out of first into second gear. I guess the synchros is the only way to completely get rid of it.

thahemp · 07-22-2015, 07:59 AM

Don't discount the no-lift shift. You don't have to leave your right foot all the way down if you don't want to, but I haven't had a single missed gear since I started shifting that way. Seriously, give it a try and see if it works.

ChocoTaco369 · 07-22-2015, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cc-rider

I installed my Hurst shifter...and all of a sudden got a bad grind when shifting from 1st to 2nd gear. But it only happens when I'm getting on it, and shift at higher RPM's. If I granny shift, it doesn't happen. If I try a really hard and fast shift...its really bad.

Never experienced this with the stock shifter. The car has only 3400 miles on it.

I've read a few threads here with people having the same thing happen. But I didn't see any concrete resolution to the issue. Did anyone ever discover the issue here?

I love my Hurst shifter...but I may have to go back to stock.

You know, I performed this and it fixed A LOT of the shifting issues I had when the car had low miles.

http://www.rangeracceleration.com/Clutch_Care.html

There may be all kinds of break-in sediment in the lines. I'm guessing your stock fluid is JET BLACK. Perform this probably twice with two 32oz bottles of DOT4 brake fluid and you should see an improvement.

The next step is to swap out the stock fluid with Redline D4. That's on my list.

Ice-Forever · 07-23-2015, 02:36 AM

Trans needs to warm up...Just make a conscious effort if you're slamming in to second before everything is up to operating temp; You have gauges right in front of the Hurst, don't you?

BenningJ · 07-23-2015, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thahemp

Try shifting without taking your foot all the way off the gas. I have recently discovered that mine doesn't grind when I leave my foot down and keep the RPMs up.

I have noticed this as well.

07-17-2015, 10:23 AM	#1
cc-rider Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MN Posts: 1,172	2nd gear shift grinding after Hurst shifter install I installed my Hurst shifter...and all of a sudden got a bad grind when shifting from 1st to 2nd gear. But it only happens when I'm getting on it, and shift at higher RPM's. If I granny shift, it doesn't happen. If I try a really hard and fast shift...its really bad. Never experienced this with the stock shifter. The car has only 3400 miles on it. I've read a few threads here with people having the same thing happen. But I didn't see any concrete resolution to the issue. Did anyone ever discover the issue here? I love my Hurst shifter...but I may have to go back to stock.

07-17-2015, 12:04 PM	#3
BenningJ Drives: 2013 AGM 1SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa Posts: 1,581 View My Garage	I have a 2013 with the non-factory Hurst shifter. Every so often I have this same issue. 90% of the time I can shift it as fast as possible and the other 10% it sounds like I'm about to blow up my synchro. __________________ 2013 Camaro 1SS/RS - Ashen Gray Metallic \| LS3 \| CAI Inductions, Inc Intake \| Vmax Ported Throttle Body \| Dynatech 1.875" Long Tube Headers \| Apex Scoop & Washer Bottle Relocation \| Lethal Racing Night Fury Cam \| BTR 7.400" Push Rods \|LS2 Dampener \| Melling 10296 Oil Pump \| IWIS Chain \| BTR .660" Dual Valve Springs \| BTR Trunion Upgrade Kit \| Lethal Racing Tuned \| Anvil Notch Spoiler \| BMR Split Drop Springs \| Eaton TrueTrac \| GM 3.91 Gears \| LPW Diff Cover \| Rohana RF2 275/40 20x10F 315/35 20x11R \| BMR Polyurethane Motor Mounts

07-17-2015, 12:14 PM	#4
revived Vrrrm. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: MA Posts: 1,495	push the clutch in faster I still cant see why anyone would go aftermarket the stock shifter isn't at all a long throw. I actually love it. __________________

07-17-2015, 01:20 PM	#5
BenningJ Drives: 2013 AGM 1SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa Posts: 1,581 View My Garage	I have thought about installing the factory shifter to see if that fixes the problem. __________________ 2013 Camaro 1SS/RS - Ashen Gray Metallic \| LS3 \| CAI Inductions, Inc Intake \| Vmax Ported Throttle Body \| Dynatech 1.875" Long Tube Headers \| Apex Scoop & Washer Bottle Relocation \| Lethal Racing Night Fury Cam \| BTR 7.400" Push Rods \|LS2 Dampener \| Melling 10296 Oil Pump \| IWIS Chain \| BTR .660" Dual Valve Springs \| BTR Trunion Upgrade Kit \| Lethal Racing Tuned \| Anvil Notch Spoiler \| BMR Split Drop Springs \| Eaton TrueTrac \| GM 3.91 Gears \| LPW Diff Cover \| Rohana RF2 275/40 20x10F 315/35 20x11R \| BMR Polyurethane Motor Mounts

07-20-2015, 02:57 PM	#7
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	Try shifting without taking your foot all the way off the gas. I have recently discovered that mine doesn't grind when I leave my foot down and keep the RPMs up. __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x

07-17-2015, 10:32 AM	#2
Punisher_ATX Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Austin Posts: 439	The 2010's had an early style synchro in 2nd gear on the tr6060. it causes grinding when up and downshifting because its thin it dost always go down even. the fix is a synchro from a newer car. Mine was minimal but the Hurst sifter made it more noticeable fr sure

07-17-2015, 03:56 PM	#6
cc-rider Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MN Posts: 1,172	Yeah I'm thinking about going back to stock too. I never had a problem grinding on fast aggressive shifts before I put in the Hurst. I did the Hurst more out of nostalgia and "cool" factor than I did for the short throw. As mentioned, the stock shifter isn't exactly the 12" throws that the old 60's cars sometimes had. Kind of makes me wonder how Hurst could leave this problem hang out there. Camaro and Hurst shifters are blood brothers and belong together. I wonder if the Hurst shifter raises the linkage connection point a bit higher to achieve that shorter throw? And second gear does not like that. My only theory as of now. I can power shift all the other gears and never get a grind.

07-20-2015, 03:15 PM	#8
macSS Drives: 2012 SS Camaro LS3 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 329	Install a MGW...wont regret it... __________________ 2012 Ashen Grey LS3_ARH 1 7/8 Long tubes_Pypes Exhaust Axle Back_C.A.I._ Bo White Ported Throttle Body_Custom Black Anodized Fuel Rails_3:91 Rear ARP Stainless Bolts_MSD Wires_Elite Engineering Catch Can_MGW Flat Stick_Stewart Warner Pro Gauges_BMR Rear Suspension_ZL1 Rear Swaybar 427 HP To The Wheels_Tuned and Dyno'd by ECS

07-20-2015, 07:59 PM	#9
BurnedRubber Ben Rakers Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Illinois Posts: 405 View My Garage	An MGW shifter wont fix this issue, the only fix is a new synchro. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS K&N Blackhawk Cold air intake, Hawk Performance Ceramic pads, BAER drilled and slotted rotors, Side louver black faded inserts, Hurst Short Throw Shifter, BMR Trailing Arms, Elite Engineering Catch Can, MSD Spark Plug Wires, Texas Speed 1 7/8in Headers and cat back, High Flow Cats, 3 inch X-Pipe, Speed Dawg shift knob, Tuned by Nickey. And oh, its My first car. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_L...5jF6EQEoKDNQ2g

07-22-2015, 05:48 AM	#10
MightymouseSS Drives: 2011 LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: el paso tx Posts: 547	I've tried different things to get rid of this issue. I have amsoil aft in the tranny which helped smoother shifts but doesn't cure the grind. I also have a separate reservoir and that helped a lil bit but still is present just not as bad. I recently replaced my clutch with a mcleod twin disc and a new oem slave with billet bearing support and i can say the issue is about 90% gone ill do still have a occasional grind if i really rev the piss out of first into second gear. I guess the synchros is the only way to completely get rid of it. __________________ Vararam Stainless Works Headers Vmax TB SLP loudmouth 2 Nightfury Cam Mike Norris CC Tuned by Southwest Speed

07-22-2015, 07:59 AM	#11
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	Don't discount the no-lift shift. You don't have to leave your right foot all the way down if you don't want to, but I haven't had a single missed gear since I started shifting that way. Seriously, give it a try and see if it works. __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x

07-23-2015, 02:36 AM	#13
Ice-Forever Drives: "Bette White" '11 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Grapevine Posts: 105 View My Garage	Trans needs to warm up...Just make a conscious effort if you're slamming in to second before everything is up to operating temp; You have gauges right in front of the Hurst, don't you? __________________ - Bette White - '11 2SS/RS LS3 /w Driver-Mod, Hurst Short Throw, Rx CC+1LE CSS, Hawk HPS Pads, Apex Motorsports SkipShift Elim, Gen5DIY DRL Harness+P13W/11W/4300K Fogs/DRLs; Otherwise stock - Soon to be spoiled