07-11-2011, 05:52 PM | #519 |
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Speaking of the SSX.....
Checked it out yesterday.... Saaaweeeeeeet! |
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SSX, That's cool!
But I'm asking should there be a Z28 lite and a Z28? Ie. Boss & Boss LS. Both Camaros the same, but the Z28 has the LS7. Last edited by 2cnd chance; 07-11-2011 at 10:43 PM. |
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Another question:
Is an SS, with "enhanced LS3+", better to be called a "3SS", if it can't touch a BOSS in either guise? Would that sanctify the (to me) "legendary Z/28", and still give enough buyers enough of an "upgrade" into near-BOSS performance AND money? In other words, who'd pay $40-large for a 3SS, or (with essentially the same content), who would only pay that dough for a "Zee"?? Actually, is there room for an "SS-R"?! Whoops...I guess Chev already used that one up... |
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$40 - $42K for the SSX: everything, but the LS7.
$45 - $47K for the Z28: everything including the LS7. |
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Not to mention the additional power requires additional drivetrain support, dry sump oil system... = more $$$. Crate motor list prices: LS3 $8,600 LS7 $16,900 LSA $17,500 The LS7 is only $600 less than an LSA which means an LS7 Camaro would cost right up there with the ZL1 and have less advertised hp. Never gonna happen. A non titanium 427 would be nice to bump the cubes without the rediuculous price, but I don't see that happening either. Since there is past history of cam changes to bump year to year hp, i.e. both the LS6 and LS1 had cam changes at model year changes.... maybe that's a possibility. The LS3 could easily support more camshaft and the exhaust manifolds are power robbing logs. A minor cam tweak and free flowing manifolds will grab an easy 25. No it won't touch the Boss Mustangs. But the weight sealed that fate years ago, if that's the goal plan it into the next gen. |
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You apparently missed the post, earlier, where I confirmed the existance of a GM kit to convert LS7s to wet-sump...le$$ expensive AND less weight AND better "packaging"... Quote:
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Fact is, Lt. Dan has already nixed the development of a "sporty-car engine" just because "beating the competition wasn't a good enough reason". Was that a "hot" LS3? Or a Camaro-specific Gen-5 SBC? Based on his comments, it's likely a "Zee" will require an RPO-ready engine...and that leaves a 426 hp LS3...or a 505 hp LS7... Apparently, "his rules"... Quote:
Did you LOOK at the p2w figures, above?! WITH IRS?! A lil bit early for a white flag...but time IS a-wastin'... |
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Why do you, I and a few others find it so simple and yet some just don't get it? I even think Number 3 not only gets it, but is seeing the possibilities. |
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Simple...
I guess I used that word due to all that's been mentioned in this thread. Lets say much less difficult than starting with a blank sheet. |
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If the new Vette is going to have the rumored GenV V8's would it be worth it GM to continue building the hand built LS7's for just the Camaro?
We have heard numerous times that the LS7 is on its way out and that dropping one in the Camaro would drive the price through the roof. Now if you add those two statements together it does not look good for a LS7. Just thinking out loud here.... |
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