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rez333 · 10-22-2012, 06:11 PM

I've been reading about GT-Rs lately and came across this thread about what owners hate about their cars:

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....bout-your-gtr/

Also reading a Porsche forum and they were going on about how GT-Rs heat soak after 5 laps and have transmission heating problems; and that the Nurburgring GT-R was a cheater car:

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...14-post65.html

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A quick translation from Walter Röhrl's interview to Michalis Georgiadis.

- Have you ever driven the GTR?

-No, never. We will have to buy the car so that I can test it and know for sure how fast it is.
But I remember testing the Scuderia here (Nürburgring) and at the long straight the GTR was 120 meters behind me and after 500 meters, it was touching my rear bumper. And the Scuderia is lighter than the Nissan and has 510HP.
This is purely a matter of horsepower. If the car was really 480HP and weighted 1740Kg it would have been impossible to make theses times here.
Only if you increase the pressure in the turbo and push the output to 600HP..

-So do you really question the way they measured it?

Absolutely. I believe that they used motors with a lot more power. Like I told you about 600HP..

The point is, I think a lot of us are duped into the magazine and internet hype about the GT-R and it's supposed dominance, and how a lot of bench racer owners think they have a "super car", but in reality it has its compromises like any car.

Brettzel · 10-22-2012, 06:19 PM

GTRs are some of the best cars out there. The only reason there is so much hype for the car, is because of fanbois, who are generally misinformed. I have a friend who had a grandsport vette, a Murcielago, a Gallardo, a 1000whp evo, an SLS AMG, has a G55 AMG, and countless other cars, and he still maintains that his GTR is his favorite of them all. From high end SUVs, to high end luxury cars, to Exotics, he has owned them all, but the GTR still tops the list. I dare you to take a ride in a GTR, drive it down the drag strip, run it around a road course, whatever, and then tell me that it is overhyped.

880 · 10-22-2012, 06:25 PM

Some people say GT-Rs have weak rods, and they saw bent rods at ~500awhp.
Can't confirm it. Just what I heard.

Not my cup of tea...but I can see why some people love them.

Brettzel · 10-22-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 880

Some people say GT-Rs have weak rods, and they saw bent rods at ~500awhp.
Can't confirm it. Just what I heard.

Not my cup of tea...but I can see why some people love them.

Way off. Bent rods at approx. 650wtq. Rods do 500whp easy.

rez333 · 10-22-2012, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brettzel

I dare you to take a ride in a GTR, drive it down the drag strip, run it around a road course, whatever, and then tell me that it is overhyped.

The point I'm making is that (if you had read the links I posted), that the GT-R cannot maintain its speed after 5 laps, and that things start breaking if you keep launching it hard. In other words, it's monstrous speed is only good for magazines and the odd occasion you want to show off to a hot chick.

Brettzel · 10-22-2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rez333

The point I'm making is that (if you had read the links I posted), that the GT-R cannot maintain its speed after 5 laps, and that things start breaking if you keep launching it hard. In other words, it's monstrous speed is only good for magazines and the odd occasion you want to show off to a hot chick.

GTRs breaking is way overplayed. They are much more reliable than almost anyone knows (aside from owners and true enthusiasts). Also, why show off to a hot chick with a car that is known to be a d!ck magnet? Buy a used gallardo or something similar to do that if you want to pick up chicks with you car.

C5RocksC5 · 10-22-2012, 09:35 PM

Nurburgring times are bull crap. Run results are not officiated or verified by an official third party. Like someone above said, fanboys and misinformed groups believe hype and run with it like reality.

King Sun · 10-22-2012, 09:39 PM

sounds like you're hating on a car you wish you can have.

derklug · 10-23-2012, 12:03 AM

GT-R's are incredible cars, but not in my taste or price range. They do have problems when raced, but so do dedicated NASCAR racers. If you push any vehicle to it's limits, you will find the weak points. Stock vs. Stock, the GT-R will be as reliable as the cars it competes against.

trademaster · 10-23-2012, 01:09 AM

The whole nuburgring hero lap thing is so out of control. This trend is catered to magazine racers with track experience amounting to 16 hours of Gran Turismo on PS3. Comparing lap times between different cars with different drivers, on different days, on such a large track is about as good as arm wrestling over Skype. Why don't we just stop having organized F1 races and let everyone just get to the track when they feel like it and compare lap times? No worries, they'll all record their own times and make sure their own cars abide by regulations.

rez333 · 10-23-2012, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by King Sun

sounds like you're hating on a car you wish you can have.

That's as stupid as saying that hating on Rosie O'Donnell means I want her.

Did you read Walter Röhrl's quote? Or have you concluded in your imbecilic logic that he wants a GT-R also?

SS 376 · 10-23-2012, 10:36 AM

I'd rather have a ZL1, a Z06 or a GT500 and the extra $40,000. The GT-R is a very good car but for $100,000 it damn well ought to be.

King Sun · 10-26-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rez333

That's as stupid as saying that hating on Rosie O'Donnell means I want her.

Did you read Walter Röhrl's quote? Or have you concluded in your imbecilic logic that he wants a GT-R also?

you're obviously mad

2ndCamaro79 · 10-27-2012, 12:58 PM

The GT-R hits 0 to 60 in under 3 seconds
The GT-R does the 1/4 mile in under 11 seconds
The GT-R has an amazing Ring time (and is the most liveable car on the list)
The GT-R is less than 100K

The GT-R is a BEAST and will go down in history period.

10-22-2012, 06:11 PM	#1
rez333 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: St. Joseph Posts: 1,283	GT-R owners and their issues.. I've been reading about GT-Rs lately and came across this thread about what owners hate about their cars: http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....bout-your-gtr/ Also reading a Porsche forum and they were going on about how GT-Rs heat soak after 5 laps and have transmission heating problems; and that the Nurburgring GT-R was a cheater car: http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...14-post65.html Quote: A quick translation from Walter Röhrl's interview to Michalis Georgiadis. - Have you ever driven the GTR? -No, never. We will have to buy the car so that I can test it and know for sure how fast it is. But I remember testing the Scuderia here (Nürburgring) and at the long straight the GTR was 120 meters behind me and after 500 meters, it was touching my rear bumper. And the Scuderia is lighter than the Nissan and has 510HP. This is purely a matter of horsepower. If the car was really 480HP and weighted 1740Kg it would have been impossible to make theses times here. Only if you increase the pressure in the turbo and push the output to 600HP.. -So do you really question the way they measured it? Absolutely. I believe that they used motors with a lot more power. Like I told you about 600HP.. The point is, I think a lot of us are duped into the magazine and internet hype about the GT-R and it's supposed dominance, and how a lot of bench racer owners think they have a "super car", but in reality it has its compromises like any car.

10-22-2012, 06:19 PM	#2
Brettzel Drives: #null Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: #null Posts: 335	GTRs are some of the best cars out there. The only reason there is so much hype for the car, is because of fanbois, who are generally misinformed. I have a friend who had a grandsport vette, a Murcielago, a Gallardo, a 1000whp evo, an SLS AMG, has a G55 AMG, and countless other cars, and he still maintains that his GTR is his favorite of them all. From high end SUVs, to high end luxury cars, to Exotics, he has owned them all, but the GTR still tops the list. I dare you to take a ride in a GTR, drive it down the drag strip, run it around a road course, whatever, and then tell me that it is overhyped. Last edited by Brettzel; 10-22-2012 at 06:36 PM.

10-22-2012, 06:25 PM	#3
880 Drives: 2011 Z06, 2004 Cobra, 1991 MR2Turbo Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Delaware Posts: 472	Some people say GT-Rs have weak rods, and they saw bent rods at ~500awhp. Can't confirm it. Just what I heard. Not my cup of tea...but I can see why some people love them. __________________

10-23-2012, 12:03 AM	#9
derklug Drives: 12 Boss 302 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Posts: 1,369	GT-R's are incredible cars, but not in my taste or price range. They do have problems when raced, but so do dedicated NASCAR racers. If you push any vehicle to it's limits, you will find the weak points. Stock vs. Stock, the GT-R will be as reliable as the cars it competes against. __________________ The biggest mistakes in life come when you know exactly what you are doing.

10-22-2012, 09:35 PM	#7
C5RocksC5 Banned Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 697	Nurburgring times are bull crap. Run results are not officiated or verified by an official third party. Like someone above said, fanboys and misinformed groups believe hype and run with it like reality.

10-22-2012, 09:39 PM	#8
King Sun Casual Camaro Owner Drives: 2010 Black LS V6 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jacksonville Fl Posts: 1,090	sounds like you're hating on a car you wish you can have.

10-23-2012, 01:09 AM	#10
trademaster Drives: 12 MP4-12C, 16 Quattroporte Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Working Posts: 707	The whole nuburgring hero lap thing is so out of control. This trend is catered to magazine racers with track experience amounting to 16 hours of Gran Turismo on PS3. Comparing lap times between different cars with different drivers, on different days, on such a large track is about as good as arm wrestling over Skype. Why don't we just stop having organized F1 races and let everyone just get to the track when they feel like it and compare lap times? No worries, they'll all record their own times and make sure their own cars abide by regulations.

10-23-2012, 10:36 AM	#12
SS 376 Drives: 2010 IBM 1SS (Former) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NoVA Posts: 2,032	I'd rather have a ZL1, a Z06 or a GT500 and the extra $40,000. The GT-R is a very good car but for $100,000 it damn well ought to be.

10-27-2012, 12:58 PM	#14
2ndCamaro79 Drives: 2014 V-Sport/ 2015 Escalade Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 939	The GT-R hits 0 to 60 in under 3 seconds The GT-R does the 1/4 mile in under 11 seconds The GT-R has an amazing Ring time (and is the most liveable car on the list) The GT-R is less than 100K The GT-R is a BEAST and will go down in history period.