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Cmlloveless · 11-25-2014, 11:01 AM

Opinions...

I am in need of a better fuel system and have decided to spend the money and just get the top of the line so that there will be no need for future upgrades.

I have narrowed it down to either Fore Innovations Level 4 triple or duel pump system or the Squash duel pump system (they don't have a triple pump system).

What would be the benefits of one system over the other? Both can run E85 or Gas. Squash is about $800 less than Fore. Fore has more options available though.

Is the Squash system more than enough to run 800hp? Or should I go with Fore with the upgraded pumps available and a triple pump system. I will not be going above 800hp as I just like to drive my car on road courses for fun, no drag racing.

JANNETTYRACING · 11-25-2014, 01:54 PM

We did a Fore Tripple in the Transformer car 3 years ago still going strong at over 1300 HP.

Didn't hear they were back business good to know.

Squash has been our Go to system for about a year now we did 2 last month one on gas one on E85.

The ZL-1 with E85 make 850 RWHP 861 RWTQ and does not drop a lb of pressure.

Very impressed with the Quality of the Squash systems.

Ted.

blake-b · 11-25-2014, 03:24 PM

The Squash system will handle 1200+whp on gas. A triple pump, for your application, would be a waste of money.

I made over 1100whp with the Squash system without a hiccup and it is definitely good for more.

BullF-16 · 11-25-2014, 03:45 PM

Squash dual 400LPH pumps on 93 octane pump gas. Good for me at 1281rwhp. No issues for almost a 2 yrs.

Fore is also good to go.

Squash provides alot of support here on the forum though.

Colby627 · 11-25-2014, 03:46 PM

I recently purchased the Fore Camaro Level 2 Return System (triple pump) with the following upgrades:

Primary Fuel Pump: TI Auto F90000267

Secondary and Third Fuel Pump: TI Auto F90000267

Electrical Upgrade: FC3 Staged Controller with 4 gauge wiring

Fuel Lines: Teflon -8 Feed / Return (30 feet)

Fuel Filter Upgrades: Upgrade to reusable stainless 10 micron filter (recommended for E85 use)

System Options: Honeywell Pressure Switch for FC3

Currently in the process of installing, this should be plenty for my current setup (900rwhp on racing gas, switching to E85) with plenty of room to grow in the future.

It seems like a top quality kit, will update you when completed.

Justin at Fore has been VERY helpful answering all questions in great detail and responds very quickly

Unreal · 11-25-2014, 04:18 PM

Either are good. Fore makes great stuff and is what I use but squash is good too.

phntmss · 11-26-2014, 02:47 AM

im getting Fore triple pump in my car. im sure it will be more than enough

acowherd · 11-26-2014, 08:21 AM

I am running Squash with e85. Easy install, and setup!

prdi · 11-26-2014, 09:32 AM

both will work awesome!!! and are great systems..

mike with presence distribution is have a sale on both squash and fore setups..

shoot him a email. He is having a sale on all go fast goodies

mike@presencedistribution.com

Rockit_z28 · 11-26-2014, 10:04 AM

Both are great systems. I run the squash on 93 octane. Matt at Florida Speed and Power has some great black Friday specials and can probably help you with either option.

Cmlloveless · 11-26-2014, 10:30 AM

I guess for the price I will end up just going with the Squash system since it is quite a bit cheaper than Fore, and is able to handle much more than I think I would ever need (never know, once I hit the desired hp/tq I tend to end up wanting more...

). Everybody seems to like both systems and I don't see any real big benefit to one vs the other.

Thanks for the responses!

11-25-2014, 11:01 AM	#1
Cmlloveless Drives: 2010 2SS RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Winchester, Ca Posts: 957 View My Garage	Fore or Squash? Opinions... I am in need of a better fuel system and have decided to spend the money and just get the top of the line so that there will be no need for future upgrades. I have narrowed it down to either Fore Innovations Level 4 triple or duel pump system or the Squash duel pump system (they don't have a triple pump system). What would be the benefits of one system over the other? Both can run E85 or Gas. Squash is about $800 less than Fore. Fore has more options available though. Is the Squash system more than enough to run 800hp? Or should I go with Fore with the upgraded pumps available and a triple pump system. I will not be going above 800hp as I just like to drive my car on road courses for fun, no drag racing.

11-25-2014, 01:54 PM	#2
JANNETTYRACING Drives: BLUE CAMARO ZL1 1LE M6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ON THE DYNO WATERBURY CT. Posts: 15,225	We did a Fore Tripple in the Transformer car 3 years ago still going strong at over 1300 HP. Didn't hear they were back business good to know. Squash has been our Go to system for about a year now we did 2 last month one on gas one on E85. The ZL-1 with E85 make 850 RWHP 861 RWTQ and does not drop a lb of pressure. Very impressed with the Quality of the Squash systems. Ted. __________________ www.jannettyracing.com Celebrating 37 years Performance parts, Installation, Fabrication, Dyno tuning, Remote custom tuning, and alignments. 203-753-7223 Waterbury CT. 06705 email tedj@jannettyracing.com

11-25-2014, 03:45 PM	#4
BullF-16 USAF retired! Thank God! Drives: 2011 1SS, 1LT red,1LT/RS SGM 98Z28 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: North Texas Posts: 2,799	Squash dual 400LPH pumps on 93 octane pump gas. Good for me at 1281rwhp. No issues for almost a 2 yrs. Fore is also good to go. Squash provides alot of support here on the forum though. __________________ HKE LSX427(Mast blk lbl 305 6bolt LS7heads, PatG231/246 blower cam, RWHP/TQ: 1281/1133 SNL Performance Custom Twin PT6766 BB turbos 4 to 25psi selectable on the Boost Leash controller, Squash dual 400LPH/ID2000s, ALKY 4 gal meth, Autometer AFR/Bst/oilpres/oiltemp/fuelpress gauges, Pedders Justice road crs pkg: All HD bushes, supercar 12kg coil overs, supercar ZL1 sways, camber plates all setup by JusticePete! :Gforce 9" 35spline S-Trac, 1500hp Outlaw axles, 3.5"alum DS, Monster Triple disc; 4xForgeline 19x10.5 4xBridgestone 305/30R19 RE-11, CTS-v calipers/rotors/Cobalt friction XR1/3 pads

11-25-2014, 03:46 PM	#5
Colby627 Drives: 2010 2SS LSA-S/C 6.6 L Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Huffman, Texas Posts: 131 View My Garage	Fore vs. Squash I recently purchased the Fore Camaro Level 2 Return System (triple pump) with the following upgrades: *Primary Fuel Pump:* TI Auto F90000267 *Secondary and Third Fuel Pump:* TI Auto F90000267 *Electrical Upgrade:* FC3 Staged Controller with 4 gauge wiring *Fuel Lines:* Teflon -8 Feed / Return (30 feet) *Fuel Filter Upgrades:* Upgrade to reusable stainless 10 micron filter (recommended for E85 use) *System Options:* Honeywell Pressure Switch for FC3 Currently in the process of installing, this should be plenty for my current setup (900rwhp on racing gas, switching to E85) with plenty of room to grow in the future. It seems like a top quality kit, will update you when completed. Justin at Fore has been VERY helpful answering all questions in great detail and responds very quickly Last edited by Colby627; 11-25-2014 at 03:48 PM. Reason: update

11-25-2014, 04:18 PM	#6
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	Either are good. Fore makes great stuff and is what I use but squash is good too. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

11-25-2014, 03:24 PM	#3
blake-b Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,205	The Squash system will handle 1200+whp on gas. A triple pump, for your application, would be a waste of money. I made over 1100whp with the Squash system without a hiccup and it is definitely good for more.

11-26-2014, 02:47 AM	#7
phntmss Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Nebraska Posts: 544	im getting Fore triple pump in my car. im sure it will be more than enough __________________ 2011 SS/RS @ home 12/28/2010

11-26-2014, 08:21 AM	#8
acowherd Drives: 2010 2ss/RS 4l80. 2009 2500 HD Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mid MO Posts: 1,826	I am running Squash with e85. Easy install, and setup! __________________ Follow along as we build and race this 2010 Camaro! https://www.facebook.com/pages/FNSS-...75028626000379 FNSS Racing!

11-26-2014, 09:32 AM	#9
prdi Drives: CTS-V Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Online Posts: 53	both will work awesome!!! and are great systems.. mike with presence distribution is have a sale on both squash and fore setups.. shoot him a email. He is having a sale on all go fast goodies mike@presencedistribution.com

11-26-2014, 10:04 AM	#10
Rockit_z28 www.1baddogracing.com Drives: 2010 IOM 2SS/RS Auto Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indian Land, SC Posts: 998 View My Garage	Both are great systems. I run the squash on 93 octane. Matt at Florida Speed and Power has some great black Friday specials and can probably help you with either option. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Aqua Blue Metalllic (bolt-ons) 2020 Camaro 2SS/RS Satin Steel Metallic - Shock and Steel Edition 1 of 98 - A10 (bolt-ons) 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS IOM - 1,023 RWHP 813RWTQ (Previous Paxton Record Holder: 9.82@139) Built and Tuned by Heintz Racing Go: DSS 9", RPM Trans TH400, Carlyle Racing 15" Conversion, ECS Vortech YSI-B, Fore Fuel System, ID1700, Gall Racing 427 C.I LSX, Mast 285CC Heads, HR Custom Cam Show: Custom Painted Stripes/Badges (Orange Pearl over White), Z/TA Spoiler, VFN Hood, Weld Wheels http://www.HeintzRacing.com http://www.youtube.com/user/1baddogracing

11-26-2014, 10:30 AM	#11
Cmlloveless Drives: 2010 2SS RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Winchester, Ca Posts: 957 View My Garage	I guess for the price I will end up just going with the Squash system since it is quite a bit cheaper than Fore, and is able to handle much more than I think I would ever need (never know, once I hit the desired hp/tq I tend to end up wanting more... ). Everybody seems to like both systems and I don't see any real big benefit to one vs the other. Thanks for the responses!