2010 Auto stock SS vs C5 125 shot

[SWAT 79]

HAHA WOW, my bad. I thought it was your camaro that was being compared for some reason, my bad.

I mean its the opposite, the camaro is the slow car, the vette is the fast one...


Which is relative because they're both fast, but comparatively, you know what i mean.

[S8ER01Z]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

HAHA WOW, my bad. I thought it was your camaro that was being compared for some reason, my bad.

I mean its the opposite, the camaro is the slow car, the vette is the fast one...


Which is relative because they're both fast, but comparatively, you know what i mean.

I got you..I didn't mean for my post to be so hostile (I posted from my Iphone last night)... I just wondered how I got involved in the comparison. haha. I apologize for the tone of my post.

[SWAT 79]

Nah its cool...that was definitely a wtf moment anyway haha

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by jsharp

Well thats cool. Its nice to know its not to be expected I did however beat a stock C5 with him having exhaust cai and dr's by like a car and 1/2.

That's not a stock Vette. I'm looking at the "LS1 RX7" and guessing you drive an RX7 equipped with an LS1 motor?

[9c1ny]

stock A6 SS vs stock C5 should be very close, stock M6 SS should take a stock C5 by a car or two

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by 9c1ny

stock A6 SS vs stock C5 should be very close, stock M6 SS should take a stock C5 by a car or two

I'm guessing the "A" and the "M" are in reference to the transmissions. Is there a huge difference between a Camaro with a manual and a Vette with a manual? I'm just trying to possibly gain a little knowledge here, not being sarcastic in any way.

[S8ER01Z]

Originally Posted by 9c1ny

stock A6 SS vs stock C5 should be very close, stock M6 SS should take a stock C5 by a car or two

Ok I know I shouldn't expect any better but seriously? A c5 losing by 'a car or two'??

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ure/index.html

12.76 at 111.96 - Done at Raceway Park

Baur made several more high 12-second runs, but the 12.7 wasn't to be topped.

You guys are seriously underrating an LS1 powered vehicles abilities and it's almost embarassing.

[SWAT 79]

Guys, the camaro has no chance. 1. its an auto, so it loses more of its hp through the drivetrain to the wheels, 2, the vette is a vette, it would smoke the camaro without the nitrous, and with. Well, you should try it and see how many cars you "win" by.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

Is this simply a case of 'I have 400hp and the vette only has 350hp' or do people really think C5s are that slow in general?

I don't know, but an LS1 'Vette with 125 shot of nitrous isn't making 350 hp anymore.

[S8ER01Z]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I don't know, but an LS1 'Vette with 125 shot of nitrous isn't making 350 hp anymore.

haha...valid point. Well played sir.

[9c1ny]

Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

Ok I know I shouldn't expect any better but seriously? A c5 losing by 'a car or two'??

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ure/index.html

12.76 at 111.96 - Done at Raceway Park


You guys are seriously underrating an LS1 powered vehicles abilities and it's almost embarassing.

thats a 2003 C5 , 2004 was the last year and much like the LS1 fbods the later year C5s are faster than the earlier ones
its also a M6 car and I would doubt you will find a faster time for a stock C5 anywhere


Much like LS1 fbods there are extremes in times, for every 12.7 second C5 you see you will find a hundred ones that ran in the low to mid 13s

Do you honestly believe a 97/98/ A4 C5 wouldnt lose by several cars to a 2010 M6 SS??

Look at the 0-60 time on the run you dug up "Baur made several more high 12-second runs, but the 12.7 wasn't to be topped. The Stalker radar gun told us that the Vette turned in 0-30 times of 2.2 seconds and a 0-60 sprint in only 4.7."


hmmmmm seems like what any 2010 SS should be capable of and like I said thats a 2003 M6 car, what would a earlier model year car click off??


and your right, its embarassing how much I underrate Ls1 cars, I have only owned 8 different ones, how many have you owned??

[S8ER01Z]

Originally Posted by 9c1ny

thats a 2003 C5 , 2004 was the last year and much like the LS1 fbods the later year C5s are faster than the earlier ones
its also a M6 car and I would doubt you will find a faster time for a stock C5 anywhere


Much like LS1 fbods there are extremes in times, for every 12.7 second C5 you see you will find a hundred ones that ran in the low to mid 13s

Do you honestly believe a 97/98/ A4 C5 wouldnt lose by several cars to a 2010 M6 SS??

Look at the 0-60 time on the run you dug up "Baur made several more high 12-second runs, but the 12.7 wasn't to be topped. The Stalker radar gun told us that the Vette turned in 0-30 times of 2.2 seconds and a 0-60 sprint in only 4.7."


hmmmmm seems like what any 2010 SS should be capable of and like I said thats a 2003 M6 car, what would a earlier model year car click off??


and your right, its embarassing how much I underrate Ls1 cars, I have only owned 8 different ones, how many have you owned??

Owning an LS1 doesn't mean you know anything... I know people who still think they make 305 at the crank and they have owned several. My point is the only reason you are making the claim you are is that we have a couple 2010s in the 12s. More than a couple of LS1 powered cars have been in the 12s stock and it's a drivers race. Especially the C5 which tends to trap 1 ~ 2mph higher than the f-bodys stock. Claiming a stock LS3 powered SS would be 2 car lengths ahead is naive IMHO and you have a list on this site that backs that up.

Here is a top 5 stock lists from CorvetteForums...
Stock(Street Tire)
12.79x @ 109.80 - boostyfox
12.841 @110.68 - cptinjak
12.84x @ 111.xx - Ramsiec5
12.98x @ 110.xx - lrbinwpb
12.990 @ 107.01 - Mistamike17

Looks like easy pickings for you Camaro SS guys....

Especially the autos...
Stock 2003 A4 13.1 @106mph
Stock '98 coupe, a4 3.15's 13.025 @ 105.54
Stock 2000 A4 13.1 @ 105mph

Of course I don't know why I'm bothering with this..you have owned many and you knew all of this before you posted... which makes me wonder what you know about the new 2010 Camaro SS that I don't because the results I'm seeing don't give me the same end result. When I look at the list this makes me laugh "for every 12.7 second C5 you see you will find a hundred ones that ran in the low to mid 13s".... really? No shit. For every 12 second Camaro SS we have hundreds running 13s and 14s. Thanks for the tip!

[9c1ny]

Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

Owning an LS1 doesn't mean you know anything... I know people who still think they make 305 at the crank and they have owned several.


Here is a top 5 stock lists from CorvetteForums...
Stock(Street Tire)
12.79x @ 109.80 - boostyfox
12.841 @110.68 - cptinjak
12.84x @ 111.xx - Ramsiec5
12.98x @ 110.xx - lrbinwpb
12.990 @ 107.01 - Mistamike17

Looks like easy pickings for you Camaro SS guys....

Especially the autos...
Stock 2003 A4 13.1 @106mph
Stock '98 coupe, a4 3.15's 13.025 @ 105.54
Stock 2000 A4 13.1 @ 105mph

Of course I don't know why I'm bothering with this..you have owned many and you knew all of this before you posted... which makes me wonder what you know about the new 2010 Camaro SS that I don't because the results I'm seeing don't give me the same end result. When I look at the list this makes me laugh "for every 12.7 second C5 you see you will find a hundred ones that ran in the low to mid 13s".... really? No shit. For every 12 second Camaro SS we have hundreds running 13s and 14s. Thanks for the tip!

<let me start out by saying any race is a drivers race, on the street anything can happen and even stock Mustang GTs have beat Dodge Vipers, that being said we are talking about what the cars are capable of with capable drivers>


ummm sorry you know such ignorant ls1 owners, I have been active on ls1tech since 2003 and have been modding and racing 4th gen fbods even longer


C5 Vettes have been on the road for what? 12yrs? maybe closer to 13yrs seeing as though they probably started selling the 97' models in late 96........

2010s have been on the road for what? 6 months?

and in 6 months the 2010 times are already to be 4th on the list of ALL TIME C5 times and the automatic 2010 SS has already run .3ths faster than a automatic C5 has EVER run bone stock

Since .1tenth = 1 car length roughly thats well umm a 3 car length win for the 2010 SS

And of course being out for 6 months and maybe 10% of them actually having been at the track I'm sure we have seen the fastest times we will EVER see for bone stock 5th gens


so when someone heads out to etown in December and rips off a 12.6 bone stock what tune will you be singing then?



thanks for playing

[S8ER01Z]

Originally Posted by 9c1ny

ummm sorry you know such ignorant ls1 owners, I have been active on ls1tech since 2003 and have been modding and racing 4th gen fbods even longer

Just pointing out obvious fact... you yourself should know it's true since you post on LS1tech.

C5 Vettes have been on the road for what? 12yrs? maybe closer to 13yrs seeing as though they probably started selling the 97' models in late 96........

2010s have been on the road for what? 6 months?

and in 6 months the 2010 times are already to be 4th on the list of ALL TIME C5 times and the automatic 2010 SS has already run .3ths faster than a automatic C5 has EVER run bone stock

Since .1tenth = 1 car length roughly thats well umm a 3 car length win for the 2010 SS

And of course being out for 6 months and maybe 10% of them actually having been at the track I'm sure we have seen the fastest times we will EVER see for bone stock 5th gens

The internet is also nothing like what is was back when these cars came out new. A lot of information is online for 2010s that was never available when 1997 C5s came out. Hell even as far back as 2001 there wasn't a large list of 'top stock times' anywhere... if it was on LS1.com I doubt it survived the site purge. Things have changed a lot... I'm merely providing MANY examples of results that poke holes in your blowout victory theory.

so when someone heads out to etown in December and rips off a 12.6 bone stock what tune will you be singing then?

thanks for playing

I called that 4 months ago and it's still doubtfull that anything more than a 12.7x will occur. It's entirely possible but irrelevant until it occurs. In other words...come see me when it happens and my opinion at that time will obviously be different.

Would love to see your track times btw... with all this talk I assume you have already smoked every C5 time I listed.