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GoldenBear · 03-27-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nanokpsi

Especiially since the LSA's internals are not forged.

The LSA's crank and connecting rods are forged. The LSA's pistons are cast.

KLR ZL1 · 03-27-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dirishboy

The look doesn't bother me.
What bothers me is more around the fact that with the 1LE in the mix at $40k I am having trouble seeing the $15k price difference to the ZL1

Have you ever priced a LSA motor? They are about $13,000 and that is just the motor.

Bad@ssCamaro · 03-27-2012, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blackonblack2010

Have you ever priced a LSA motor? They are about $13,000 and that is just the motor.

I think that's the price for the LS7 motor.

JMAN311 · 03-27-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

I think that's the price for the LS7 motor.

$11K, close enough

http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CFQQxBUwAA#

KLR ZL1 · 03-27-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

So can I offer you a LS camaro with a LSA for 60K?? From the side and rear the 1LE and the ZL1 are very similar. I am just saying the 1LE could at least have its own rims

While we are at it lets not be naive, when you pay more for something you like for people to know that. People like for others to know they are driving something special period. Still don't believe me check out the sales of the VW Phaeton.

You could say the same for the V6 and the SS models, that from the side they look exactly the same not similiar unless you look for the mailslot in the front or the smaller exhaust tips in the rear.

lbls1 · 03-27-2012, 05:52 PM

I think that its a great package. The only thing I'd recommend to chevy is to make the ssx wheels a little different on the zl1, such as a combo of black and polished surfaces, similarly to the carbon concept zl1, and/or make a polished ssx wheel optioin for the zl1.

The more camaro varieties available will be better for us. One other thing I'd recommend is to make the 1le more of a track concept by making it lighter than the 'ss with some racing seats, and anything else that would reduce weight.

KLR ZL1 · 03-27-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

I think that's the price for the LS7 motor.

I priced the LSA when we first heard of the ZL1 and it was about 13K now from Jeg's it is 11K something. The LS7 is 13,600. But my point is your not going to match a ZL1 for 15K more on a 1LE. We already went through this with the SS comparison.

KLR ZL1 · 03-27-2012, 06:03 PM

The only thing I see is if I was in the market for a 2SS I would most likely buy this for a little more. Back in 09 when I purchased my 2SS it was just under 39K.

phantom · 03-27-2012, 06:20 PM

The 1LE has picked up some exciting ZL1 components which continues to evolve the C5 platform. I debated for months bringing my 10 2SS to Ligenfelter for an engine build up and suspension enhancement. Then, sure enough GM roles out some really cool technology and upgrades to the ZL1. I order and wait for my allocation, then wamm... they role out the 1LE, which I think is similar to the ZO6 Corvette and Grand Sport relationship. If you can't afford the engine, you get almost all of the other components. Bottom line, the Magnetic Suspension still beats the upgraded suspension in the 1LE, and what about the 580 horses. Now we know the price difference. But you have a choice. Great job GM.

Bad@ssCamaro · 03-27-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JMAN311

$11K, close enough

http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CFQQxBUwAA#

thanks

TJ91 · 03-27-2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SSmoked

The 1LE in my opinion is the Camaro Ls7 concept without the Almighty LS7
1LE

LS7 concept

Only thing it shares is the side skirts and rear wing. Everything else is pretty different.
Be happy they didnt stuf the MRC into it like it was originally uneveiled. Then I would be pissed.
Not sure why they didnt just call this the Z28. Oh well wont bring that topic in here

TJ91 · 03-27-2012, 07:03 PM

PS those SSX wheels, GM has thrown them on every model you can think of! Literally.
Even the spark and cruze has them in their concepts which I wont be surprised if they became wheel options for them

CAM....ZL1 · 03-27-2012, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by radz28

When GM offers full dosclosure on all technical details of 1LE, I'd suggest comparing them to ZL1. There is a lot more technology, at least at this point, in ZL1 to making it a great all-around sports car. 1LE sounds to be more track oriented, so it doesn't have all the technology stuffed into ZL1. I thought GM might add some more goodies into 1LE (or what I thought may eventually be Z28) from ZL1, but it's hard to argue with the price

all the techincal details were posted on another thread

29er · 03-27-2012, 09:02 PM

for me gm missed the exclusivity with the ZL-1.
it should be more distinct from the others.

when you see a porsche turbo and an gt3rs you can tell the difference..

anyway i don't like that, it will have the same wheels, steering,suede, exhaust.. etc..

they {GM} could of put others wheels on it..

03-27-2012, 05:52 PM	#48
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,022	I think that its a great package. The only thing I'd recommend to chevy is to make the ssx wheels a little different on the zl1, such as a combo of black and polished surfaces, similarly to the carbon concept zl1, and/or make a polished ssx wheel optioin for the zl1. The more camaro varieties available will be better for us. One other thing I'd recommend is to make the 1le more of a track concept by making it lighter than the 'ss with some racing seats, and anything else that would reduce weight. __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic*

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03-27-2012, 06:20 PM	#51
phantom phantom Drives: 2012 ZL1 CRT 6M Join Date: May 2009 Location: depere, wi Posts: 143 View My Garage	The 1LE has picked up some exciting ZL1 components which continues to evolve the C5 platform. I debated for months bringing my 10 2SS to Ligenfelter for an engine build up and suspension enhancement. Then, sure enough GM roles out some really cool technology and upgrades to the ZL1. I order and wait for my allocation, then wamm... they role out the 1LE, which I think is similar to the ZO6 Corvette and Grand Sport relationship. If you can't afford the engine, you get almost all of the other components. Bottom line, the Magnetic Suspension still beats the upgraded suspension in the 1LE, and what about the 580 horses. Now we know the price difference. But you have a choice. Great job GM.

03-27-2012, 09:02 PM	#56
29er Drives: 14 1LE Garage King Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: MTL Posts: 1,519 View My Garage	for me gm missed the exclusivity with the ZL-1. it should be more distinct from the others. when you see a porsche turbo and an gt3rs you can tell the difference.. anyway i don't like that, it will have the same wheels, steering,suede, exhaust.. etc.. they {GM} could of put others wheels on it..