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Also, the GT500's have generally always seen ridiculous markups where I've seen, while the Roush's tend to be special order....and the same applies for the Boss Mustangs..
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01-04-2012, 12:44 PM | #31 |
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htron50, as a member in good standing here, in ZEE-land, I believe we "true believers" accept your gift, as offered, in the true spirit for which it was offered. No doubt many different components have been tested under camo...including hoods. "Could it be?!" Again, we certainly hope so...
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01-04-2012, 01:03 PM | #32 |
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look at the pic with the "open scoop" in the front, it is obviously crudely dremmeled or cut out with a grinder for testing purposes
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01-04-2012, 01:13 PM | #33 |
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Of some historical significance:
1969 Camaro Model Year production figures - Camaro SS 350 (L48, all models/trannies) = 22,339 Camaro SS 396/375hp (L78 & L89 combined) = 5,200 Camaro COPO (estimated, both engines) = 1,000 MSRP, Base, SS 396-L78 and COPO 9561-L72 and Z/28 = SAME (within $100!) Total SS (Z27 Option) Production = 34,932, all models/engines Camaro Z/28 = 20,302, which is over 3 TIMES as many as all other solid-cammed (read: HIGH PERFORMANCE) Camaros that year... Sources: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=802 http://www.gmheritagecenter.com/gm-h...let-Camaro.pdf Page 173 of pdf file. Why WOULDN'T GM offer a "suitably-badged" and properly-priced and -contented ZEE?! Cache'...in SPADES! Last edited by LOWDOWN; 01-04-2012 at 01:25 PM. |
01-04-2012, 03:49 PM | #34 | |
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Looking closer at the camo'd hood, do I see what looks like the Hot Wheels hood??? YUMMY!!! |
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01-04-2012, 04:29 PM | #35 | |
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01-04-2012, 04:31 PM | #36 | |
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Look keep on dreaming and always looking for the next best thing. It wasnt that long ago you guys were hoping for a ZL1. now you have it and for some reason it isnt good enough. And more than likely you wont be able to afford a Z28 anyway (if they happen to ever come out with one).... so why the discussion??? By the way, the ZL1 is about as much power as you are going to see out of a stock Camaro. I PROMISE you that insurance companies are not going to allow the HP wars to continue as it has gotten too dangerous. Most of the people who buy these cars cannot properly drive them so they are an accident waiting to happen. |
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01-04-2012, 04:32 PM | #37 |
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WOW!
Just...wow... 1) A Gen-5 Camaro has a "best before" date of MY '15...long before '25... 2) Banko...really?! Gee, we better run for the hills... 3) A Z/28, priced in the $40's, will be substantially less expen$ive than the ZL1...which, given "the times", makes even more sense (and cents) than the ZL1, whose raison d'etre is to compete with/conquer the GT 500, a car no one regularly enjoying this Section cares a tinker's damn about... 4) A 500 hp Z/28 carrying 200 fewer pounds will acquit itself very well, thank you, against the BOSS (in ANY form), the target for, and hopeful result of, these discussions that you so ignominiously (and fully unprepared) have chosen to try to squelch...nice try. 5) "We" are here because we are NOT fully engaged in the ZL1 program...not our car, not our style... 6) Again...WOW! But thanks for playing...don't forget your lovely parting gift on your way out. Last edited by LOWDOWN; 01-04-2012 at 04:49 PM. |
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By the way I wasnt directing my "cant afford it" post at anyone in particular. Just in general since most people wouldnt be able to afford it. It would have to be a significant improvement over the new GT500 to come out (again if GM could swing it) and that would bump the rpice up near 6 figures for that kind of performance. Not too many people can afford that kind of car in this economy. And if they could I dont see them buying a 6 figure Camaro.
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01-04-2012, 04:42 PM | #40 | |
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The simplest way to put it, the government has directed the fuel milage changes. Car companies can not continue to build 500-600hp cars and meet the standards. If they do it will take some new technology that isnt out there currently. And if they day I will be a very happy man. If I could get a 600hp car and also get 30mpg I would learn to do cartwheels. |
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01-04-2012, 05:20 PM | #41 | |
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http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=85 I'm sure you'll receive a worthy welcoming... Last edited by LOWDOWN; 01-04-2012 at 06:39 PM. |
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01-04-2012, 07:12 PM | #42 | |
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Yes and no. If you can afford to pay $60k one way, you can afford to pay $60k the other way too. And if the difference between the two breaks you, chance are you can't actually afford either one.
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Most of us that want a Z28 never wanted a supercharged car. And its not because its not 'good enough', I think we can all agree that its going to be a great car. But its not the Camaro we want. The V6 is a great car, its just not the Camaro I want. The SS is a great car, its just not the Camaro I want. Would I be happy with either of them (or a ZL1)? I'm sure I would. But I'd be be happier with a Z28 along the lines of whats been discussed in this section. Now, if you yourself don't want a Z28, or don't expect a Z28, or don't think that a Z28, or in any other way have no interest in positively contributing to the discussions in the Z28 section of this forum, I kindly ask you to find other areas of the site to participate in.
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