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motorhead · 04-13-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

awww come one now. Don't sound like that now.

Many of us have been saying over and over, traction is going to be an issue just like it is on the other pony car.

Guess I lost mine to you. How much will it cost to get it back.

Pgoldston · 04-13-2012, 01:37 PM

As well this car was not just setup to go straight,

Im sure no one has been able to look into the tune yet to see how the traction management is setup on these cars or anything like that.

BTW anyone have the AFR on the cars when they go WOT or the timing?
Look at the 2003 EVO;s that ran the AFR almost into 9's when at full boost from the factory. How much is chevy trying to protect the engine when you hammer down. Theres alot of data not being looked at.

demonspeed · 04-13-2012, 01:39 PM

Rational heads can sit back to wait for more cars to make passes. This is one car -- the first car -- the be presented to the world in private hands at the track. Just wait a couple of weeks...

Where is Evan Smith, anyway?

PQ · 04-13-2012, 01:39 PM

Some guys need to stop thinking that just because one or two people out of a hundred run fast times that it's supposed to represent the car.

Mustang guys, AND Camaro guys, using SOMEONE ELSES time to represent their car.

And it goes both ways.

I could put my 15 year old daughter in in a GT500 and laugh at the Mustang when she can't run low 12s.

porcupinekiller · 04-13-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hognutz

the thing I find the funniest about this is not that the 12.5 is a little disapointing but the fact that the ford faithful someone how consider this an embarrasing time.

yet they think there cars are awsome and yet run the smae times out of the gate in a review. 12.4 is the best review time I have ever seen for the current GT500 and that car is awesome and the ZL-1 sucks. ha ha.

this is one data point time will tell if chevy overhyped the 1/4 time or if this car just needs some break in time/ tweeks.

Lets go back a couple years for ya. 11.95 at 120 mph on stock tire and 11.59 on drag rubber for an "old" iron block 2010 GT500.
A 12.5 is embarrassing for the ZL1 considering all the hype. But in reality any car that runs a 12.5 is pretty darn quick!!

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...t/viewall.html

demonspeed · 04-13-2012, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PQ

Some guys need to stop thinking that just because one or two people out of a hundred run fast times that it's supposed to represent the car.

Mustang guys, AND Camaro guys, using SOMEONE ELSES time to represent their car.

That would mean other's need to get off their keyboards and actually race their car. What a novel idea!

motorhead · 04-13-2012, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PQ

Some guys need to stop thinking that just because one or two people out of a hundred run fast times that it's supposed to represent the car.

Mustang guys, AND Camaro guys, using SOMEONE ELSES time to represent their car.

And it goes both ways.

I could put my 15 year old daughter in in a GT500 and laugh at the Mustang when she can't run low 12s.

brucedd · 04-13-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 69NMYSS

WHAT? R u kidding all this waiting and anticipation for mid 12 sec car. Not even breaking sub 12 with DR's.

Beginning to think the delivery and production delay might have done me a big favor....

how is the CTS-V faster ...OMG

Snake Slayer · 04-13-2012, 01:42 PM

Guys I am by far an expert but I have owned 3 LSx cars and each of them has gotten stronger and ran better times as they acquired more miles. I cant say for sure if this is the case with the LSA but keep in mind this car has 200 miles on the odo.

Thyshallsmite · 04-13-2012, 01:43 PM

Thats pretty disappointing, all the talk of aerodynamics and launch control and auto being a pure integration and magnetic ride and its well.....slow. Guess i'll just put my money into modding my SS rather than getting a ZL1. :( rather disappointed.

*mlee* · 04-13-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by brucedd

Beginning to think the delivery and production delay might have done me a big favor....

how is the CTS-V faster ...OMG

It is not... I watched a bone stock CTS-V run 12.7's all day long on this exact same track in better weather last month

bhall82 · 04-13-2012, 01:47 PM

strokerls1 · 04-13-2012, 01:48 PM

Trap speed tells it all. Even with the car being "broken in", how will it pick up another 4 mph!? 116 is what my dad ran in his bone stock cts-v. Unless GM tuned this thing to open up after the break in period, its not looking too good. I hope the manual car will do better. Looks like a c6 z06 is a much better buy at this point.

ffrcobra_65 · 04-13-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

Guess I lost mine to you. How much will it cost to get it back.

People are so quickly disappointed. If you believed all the marketing hype, yes, I can understand the disappointment. Pre-production hype #s are going to be different from actual #s from a dealer-bought car. Also, traction is not going to be great on the stock tires. Some of us knew and said that because we have been running them on our GT500s....and they suck! I am just glad to start seeing "real world" runs, (not simulated). Set of DRs and that auto ZL1 will blast down the 1/4

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demonspeed not afraid of the wall Drives: Camaros Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 2,148	Rational heads can sit back to wait for more cars to make passes. This is one car -- the first car -- the be presented to the world in private hands at the track. Just wait a couple of weeks... Where is Evan Smith, anyway? __________________ 2023 1LE 1SS BCD GCF JF5 MN6 SIA SLN UQT 10/13/22: 1100 Past Camaros: 13 1LE\|02 SS\|01 Z28\|00 SS\|91 1LE\|91 Z28\|89 IROC-Z

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PQ Booooosted. Drives: 2010 Supercharged SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 36,716 View My Garage	Some guys need to stop thinking that just because one or two people out of a hundred run fast times that it's supposed to represent the car. Mustang guys, AND Camaro guys, using SOMEONE ELSES time to represent their car. And it goes both ways. I could put my 15 year old daughter in in a GT500 and laugh at the Mustang when she can't run low 12s. __________________

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Snake Slayer Drives: Awaiting 2014 C7 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 902	Guys I am by far an expert but I have owned 3 LSx cars and each of them has gotten stronger and ran better times as they acquired more miles. I cant say for sure if this is the case with the LSA but keep in mind this car has 200 miles on the odo. __________________ Awaiting 2014 C7

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Pgoldston Drives: 1999 camaro Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 112	As well this car was not just setup to go straight, Im sure no one has been able to look into the tune yet to see how the traction management is setup on these cars or anything like that. BTW anyone have the AFR on the cars when they go WOT or the timing? Look at the 2003 EVO;s that ran the AFR almost into 9's when at full boost from the factory. How much is chevy trying to protect the engine when you hammer down. Theres alot of data not being looked at.

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04-13-2012, 01:48 PM	#111
strokerls1 Drives: 2015 Charger Hellcat Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Flowery Branch, GA Posts: 307	Trap speed tells it all. Even with the car being "broken in", how will it pick up another 4 mph!? 116 is what my dad ran in his bone stock cts-v. Unless GM tuned this thing to open up after the break in period, its not looking too good. I hope the manual car will do better. Looks like a c6 z06 is a much better buy at this point.