ONSTAR: Big Brother is watching you!

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Verio

That's not true. I know for a fact that if I were to race my vehicle, and I told my insurance company, my rates would be much much higher.

it would only be insurance fraud if you wrecked your vehicle while racing and then tried to claim it happened on the street (and not street racing)... As long as you are honest with the details it is not fraud, of course if you are honest they can deny the claim, increase your rates or even drop your coverage completely, but it isn't fraud...

[Verio]

Originally Posted by Rogue Leader

No.. what I said IS true. It is not ILLEGAL to race your car and not tell your insurance company, however if they do know you race your car they have the right to drop your policy or jack your rates (most will drop you). There is nothing ILLEGAL about it, nor is it insurance fraud, just part of your policy agreement with your insurance company, same as a contract.

Well, I guess you're right that it's not illegal to withhold information about racing to your insurance company, it would only be illegal if you lied about not racing it when you eventually wreck it.

[DevilKnightFalcon]

Originally Posted by NYSE#1

I may not do anything illegal but what about extra martial affairs and lawyers getting access to my records; that's not the govt business! Your all just abunch of goodie goodies; wait 5 years when your car starts mailing you tickets like camaras do now; NO one is prefect!

This is a joke right....please tell me this is not a valid concern of yours...if it is then be careful....the government and lawyers might be watching you through your computer right now. LMAO

[Rogue Leader]

Originally Posted by Verio

Well, I guess you're right that it's not illegal to withhold information about racing to your insurance company, it would only be illegal if you lied about not racing it when you eventually wreck it.

Thanks, sorry I was a bit abraisive in my response to you.

[GaryTucker]

Originally Posted by TheCaptain

I don't do anything illegal, (aside from speed, and the occasional burnout) so i don't have to worry about anything. Besides, i've had OnStar in my Cobalt for the last three years, and haven't had any problems. In fact, its saved my ass a couple of times!

Exactly...if you aren't doing anything illegal...chances are no one will ever listen in on your life. I guess if people want to run around being paranoid about "big brother" they can...I just don't see the point. It's like Raymond in Rain Man...afraid to fly because of crashes...only people are afraid that someone will listen to them singing along to a song or hear them fart in the car...

Next we'll be talking about how bad black boxes are in cars...

[GaryTucker]

Originally Posted by KnightHawk

Now now. Don't go bringing logic into this. Logic doesn't play with tinfoil hat crowd.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by NYSE#1

I may not do anything illegal but what about extra martial affairs and lawyers getting access to my records; that's not the govt business! Your all just abunch of goodie goodies; wait 5 years when your car starts mailing you tickets like camaras do now; NO one is prefect!

Hope your wife dosen't read this

[RogueSS]

Spoke with someone today in law enforcement while at some training who works with the FBI pretty regularly.

I told him the story floating around here about OnStar and he immediately started laughing.

He said wishes it were true, but reality is, it's not. Also said the FBI gets warrants for EVERYTHING even stuff they don't need to. People may try and convince you that big brother is watching....but it's a myth when it comes to things like OnStar

As for LoJack, having recently had some training on it, the transponder in a vehicle is not active unless the car is listed as stolen on NCIC....it's dormant and produces no signal the rest of the time....otherwise every police car with a LoJack system would constantly track every vehicle that it's installed on, which would be rather annoying.