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Overflow · 07-13-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Revenant

Plus I think the charger only comes in automatic >>

No the SRT8 has a manual transmission.

GEEKFREEKSCOTTY · 07-13-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by squat

In my opinion the shape and body style doesn't matter that much, the new camaro doesn't look like the old ones yet it is still a muscle car.

You've seen a 5th Gen camaro, right??

There's actually a lot of design elements carried over to from the 1st gen camaros.

Granted, of the 3 "new muscle" cars out there, I think the Camaro did the most in terms of "straying" from the original body style.

But, it definitely has more design commonalities with the 1st Gen, than 2nd - 4th gen Camaros did

silentownage001 · 07-13-2012, 02:59 PM

I hate 4 doors...

ToolFan66 · 07-13-2012, 03:10 PM

Really? I personally think all 3 did a fantastic job at the so called retro look. With that said I think the Challenger looks the best in the so called retro look, and with that said I would take the Camaro and think the Camaro is the better all around Muscle car out of the 3 with the Mustang in a close second.

This is of course my opinon..

Steve Dallas · 07-13-2012, 03:57 PM

I have to say that Dodge really hit it out of the park as far as the look of the Challenger.

My first car was a 73 Dodge Charger SE, and I do like the look of the Charger too, though it's more of a stretch to see the historic charger lines in the new version.

Still, before I bought my Camaro, I was looking into getting an AWD Charger R/T...glad I decided on the Camaro instead

ShowSStopper · 07-13-2012, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiveg56

too (two) many doors

rez333 · 07-13-2012, 05:31 PM

The Charger is fat and ugly. Its dimensions are all out of whack, like a misshapen hunchback monkey boy. The Challenger on the other hand has an attractive shape and fits 5 people comfortably, thereby making the Charger a complete waste of time and space.

Check out this artist impression of a two door Charger:

.. looks great! But elongate the cabin and it becomes this monstrosity:

Which to me looks like a Frankenstein mutant hybrid of a muscle car and full-sized family sedan - which is basically what it's trying to be anyway!

Why don't we make a hybrid of a Corvette and a mini-van to make everyone happy! Not. Don't mix and match.

Overflow · 07-13-2012, 05:45 PM

Uh.. I don't know about anyone else, but IMHO Charger is the best looking sedan and one of the best looking American cars out there. The Charger looks way better than the C6 IMO.

*DGthe3* · 07-13-2012, 09:10 PM

The Charger is left out because it was never a pony car. The Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger were. Doesn't really have anything to do with 2 doors vs 4, not with me anyway.

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Originally Posted by rez333

The Charger is fat and ugly. Its dimensions are all out of whack, like a misshapen hunchback monkey boy. The Challenger on the other hand has an attractive shape and fits 5 people comfortably, thereby making the Charger a complete waste of time and space.

Check out this artist impression of a two door Charger:

.. looks great! But elongate the cabin and it becomes this monstrosity:

Which to me looks like a Frankenstein mutant hybrid of a muscle car and full-sized family sedan - which is basically what it's trying to be anyway!

Why don't we make a hybrid of a Corvette and a mini-van to make everyone happy! Not. Don't mix and match.

'fat, ugly, and the dimensions are out of whack'

Those descriptors could apply just as easily to the Challenger as they do to the Charger.

5 people will be far more comfortable in a Charger than a Challenger. And that 2 door Charger photoshop has had far more bodywork changed than just shortening the cabin. Looks like the fender flares were enlarged, the doors were given more of a curve, the body lines were sharpened, the 'hips' were flattened and given more definition. If you did these things to the sedan, it would look a lot better too.

The IOM Ninja · 07-13-2012, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JEEPFREEKSCOTTY

You've seen a 5th Gen camaro, right??

There's actually a lot of design elements carried over to from the 1st gen camaros.

Granted, of the 3 "new muscle" cars out there, I think the Camaro did the most in terms of "straying" from the original body style.

But, it definitely has more design commonalities with the 1st Gen, than 2nd - 4th gen Camaros did

Ahh yes the Gen 4 Camaro A.K.A. the Caviller Camaro....

y2k king · 07-13-2012, 09:39 PM

it's a 4 door sedan!!!

peteypab2133 · 07-13-2012, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Obzen

It's 4 doors and isn't related to its heritage at all. It's an ok car but it should have never been called a charger.

+1 I look at it as if it is a 300C with a few adjustments.

That would be like the camaro and the Malibu sharing the same looks.

I never like the charger, I hope the cuda is bad ass though

11vert w&o · 07-13-2012, 10:59 PM

I agree too many doors and as far as I know automatic only.

DandDC09 · 07-13-2012, 11:04 PM

Because its 3... If the charger was included, then it would be 4

.... Second of all 4 doors and way to heavy... Doesn't compare....

07-13-2012, 02:59 PM	#17
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07-13-2012, 03:57 PM	#19
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07-13-2012, 05:45 PM	#22
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07-13-2012, 03:10 PM	#18
ToolFan66 Drives: 2011 2SS 6.2L W/RS package Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,008	Really? I personally think all 3 did a fantastic job at the so called retro look. With that said I think the Challenger looks the best in the so called retro look, and with that said I would take the Camaro and think the Camaro is the better all around Muscle car out of the 3 with the Mustang in a close second. This is of course my opinon..

07-13-2012, 05:31 PM	#21
rez333 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: St. Joseph Posts: 1,283	The Charger is fat and ugly. Its dimensions are all out of whack, like a misshapen hunchback monkey boy. The Challenger on the other hand has an attractive shape and fits 5 people comfortably, thereby making the Charger a complete waste of time and space. Check out this artist impression of a two door Charger: .. looks great! But elongate the cabin and it becomes this monstrosity: Which to me looks like a Frankenstein mutant hybrid of a muscle car and full-sized family sedan - which is basically what it's trying to be anyway! Why don't we make a hybrid of a Corvette and a mini-van to make everyone happy! Not. Don't mix and match.

07-13-2012, 11:04 PM	#28
DandDC09 Drives: '10 2LT/RS, '13 Malibu Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 476	Because its 3... If the charger was included, then it would be 4 .... Second of all 4 doors and way to heavy... Doesn't compare.... __________________