01-17-2010, 04:28 PM | #155 |
Over the last year, we have had no less than a dozen guys say they would let us use the car to verify the complete kit.
The car we built the kit on had a few major upgrades that we werent sure would work on the stock kit. So after our 2nd revision, we put out a request for a donor car. They would get the kit at dead cost, and have free installation. In return, we would verify the production kit. Well, after a year, and a dozen failed attempts, we just back burner'd the kit. Last week, we had another customer from FL claim he was gonna let us use his car. Hopefully, if/when he decides, we will get it finished. But we have had the kit ready for over a year now. We just will NOT ship a production kit until we have tested it on a factory stock car (bolt on's ok). The GTO market is extremely small, so the sales volume wont exceed more than a dozen or so kits. We dont want to have any production revisions. Why did we stop posting on the GTO board? Because they loved to talk, but wouldnt put their money where their mouth was. We offered a complete GTO kit, installed, with KB warranty, for a couple grand, and NO ONE took us up on it. All they did, was complain as to why it wasn't out. |
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01-17-2010, 04:36 PM | #156 |
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how bout a complete camaro kit for a couple grand?? I will high altitude test it in CO!
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01-17-2010, 05:01 PM | #157 |
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Stay on topic please......
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01-17-2010, 06:19 PM | #158 |
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I'm actually buying a blower this week. Can you help answer my questions?
I really liked KB on my truck.
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I for one and very 'pro' KB. I've already heard of cases of the Maggie 2300 guys being out of blower as they want to up the boost. The KB unit is ready to go. I heard about having to tame the blower for the 6.2...which is awesome because you know you can pulley that thing with the right 'support' mods and get ready to rip big HP numbers.
I would like to know some IAT vs ambient temps numbers though with the KB. I run a methanol kit on my buick with 100% meth in the tank...I swear by it.
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01-18-2010, 10:24 AM | #163 |
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Keep comments on topic...
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well i like. but still have not seen potential of vortex supercharger. i have that on the car and am waiting to here and see the numbers once installed. also thinking of running 8psi cause i am worried about my stock internals. not sure how much they can handle.
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01-18-2010, 01:43 PM | #165 |
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If you guys do a search, compare there "numbers" of a non high pressure unit vs. a standard unit. High pressure units are meant for well over 15psi and they picked up a claimed 40+hp at high pressure over there standard units yet everyone else can compete with standard pressure units. HP units can't be used on these cars unless you far exceed 15psi, and those also take more hp/fuel etc to operate during non-high boost situations. So, this leaves you with the units that are 1.4pr and if you truly research the info, you will see that only the HP units worked really well. An inherent flaw in the 4/6 rotor combo is its low VE until high speeds. Its advantage is at very high speeds which is for modified motors only. Peak boost for peak boost, the Maggie 2300 TVS and Whipple 2.9L will make significantly more torque.
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01-18-2010, 01:47 PM | #166 |
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Where is the Whipple kit then. Haven't seen updates on it in a while.
Not trying to be sarcastic I'm actually curious. We've been attempting to see when kits are going to be available for both KB and Whipple but not much communication back so far. |
01-18-2010, 02:01 PM | #167 |
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Vendors,
Please respect the OP's post regarding thier products. You are more then welcome to make a thread illustrating your capabilities comparied to others but do so outside of another vendor's thread please. Thanks very much for your cooperation, Chris
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1. Claims patent pending, but currently no patents are awarded. 2. These are not CNC'd 6061 material. The housings are extruded aluminum which is NOT the same as Billet. 3. Does not, these rotors were designed in the mid 80's by SRM and they're sister company Opcon Autorotor. 4. There is nothing wrong with cast parts, and it offers many other benefits that extruded aluminum does not. 5. Hard anodizing has been proven to have very low thermal conductivity and lower heat dissipation. 6. They don't have an engine dyno. 7. Years? 8. Not true, were releasing water cooled units shortly. 9. Patent pending vent valve. Not patented. 10. This is a joke, Whipple has the biggest sc's and is a true MFG, not an importer from J&M Tech. Whipple has, and you can currently purchase the 4.0 and 5.0, as well as the 8.3. The 4.5 and 5.2 are just on the horizion as is the 13 and 16 liter SC's. 11. Where is this BS coming from? We, as in Whipple, are the only twin screw mfg in the US, and have been building GM kits since 1988. 12. Undisputed leader by they're own propaganda. Why does Ford Racing pick Whipple? Why did Shelby start offering Whipple after originally offering KB? Almost none of these facts you posted are even remotely true. Again, KB doesn't even mfg superchargers. They import them from J&M Tech, or HPS Superchargers, look them up. Those housings are not machined from a solid piece of billet, they're extruded aluminum housings. Then machined, then hard anodizied. Extrusions are not as strong as raw billet. |
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