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ssmike · 10-23-2013, 07:21 PM

I've read that the HPS pads fade bad but I don't recall seeing any negatives with the HP+.

Orange Crush 1LE · 10-23-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ssmike

I've read that the HPS pads fade bad but I don't recall seeing any negatives with the HP+.

What sold me on the HP+ was that Ron Fellows School at Spring Mountain is running them in probably 20 Corvettes with good success. I also like that I can drive them on the street with low noise compared to a more aggressive pad. And because they're rotor friendly, I likely won't have to turn my rotors next time or worry about rotor wear, just swap the pads myself.

But if there are horror stories out there, I'd like to hear them. I've heard they can squeak, but I've yet to hear them squeak and they are certainly quieter than a full track pad.

ssmike · 10-23-2013, 08:02 PM

Yea I'd like to hear any comments or experiences with them too! Maybe I'll start another thread asking about HP+ reviews.

So Cal Camaro · 10-23-2013, 11:22 PM

My experience with HP+ pads were they squeeled constantly unless you were driving hard on the track...my Cobalt Friction pads only occasionally make noise on the street....

Synner · 10-23-2013, 11:53 PM

HP+ were ok on shorter tracks but the faster I got the worse they got. Went DTC-30's and 6-pistons for now but will upgrade pads again when they wear out. Will be trying cobalt friction as well.

So Cal Camaro · 10-24-2013, 12:00 AM

You'll love the Cobalt Friction pads...they work great!

Rob@WretchedMS · 10-24-2013, 07:23 AM

DAMN Tbone, i'm impressed, lol

Mike, i think you will be fine, just keep in mind when you are driving that if the brakes feel 'funny' at all it's time for a cool down lap or two. As you progress with things the Cobalt Friction Pads are very very good. I run the HP+ on the Street, and the Cobalt Friction at the Track, both with the DBA 5000/4000 Combo. This on the GTO with Brakes that are a lot smaller than your Camaro has on it.

ssmike · 10-24-2013, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob@WretchedMS

DAMN Tbone, i'm impressed, lol

Mike, i think you will be fine, just keep in mind when you are driving that if the brakes feel 'funny' at all it's time for a cool down lap or two. As you progress with things the Cobalt Friction Pads are very very good. I run the HP+ on the Street, and the Cobalt Friction at the Track, both with the DBA 5000/4000 Combo. This on the GTO with Brakes that are a lot smaller than your Camaro has on it.

Thanks Rob! How's the new shop working out?

Orange Crush 1LE · 10-24-2013, 11:25 AM

Thanks for the info. Next time I need to turn or replace my rotors, I'll try the Cobalt Friction pads. For now I'll stick with the HP+, as they work well on the tracks that I drive.

Rob@WretchedMS · 10-24-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ssmike

Thanks Rob! How's the new shop working out?

It's going very well actually, just need more Camaro's to work on, lol

ssmike · 10-24-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob@WretchedMS

It's going very well actually, just need more Camaro's to work on, lol

Wish I lived closer! I'm doing a Pedders FE4 sway upgrade soon. I should be able to tackle it myself on jackstands and take it to a local shop for an alignment!

td195f · 10-24-2013, 06:17 PM

Mike,

Hawk HP+'s are the pads I had on at Watkins Glen that I ended up taking off after I got the meatball flag two mornings in a row for sparks from the front wheels. The Trackmasters mechanic and I both found no reason fort the sparks. No signs of rubbing at all. After the second time we decided it had to be the pads. I put the stock Brembo pads back on and my instructor and I thought there was no difference in braking. Some people felt that the temp range of the HP+ pads are not high enough for a 4000 pound car and the braking required with the speeds at Watkins Glen. I won't run them again.

White_SS/RS · 10-24-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by td195f

...I put the stock Brembo pads back on and my instructor and I thought there was no difference in braking. Some people felt that the temp range of the HP+ pads are not high enough for a 4000 pound car and the braking required with the speeds at Watkins Glen. I won't run them again.

^^This is good to know. Im running the stock pads at the moment and they seem to perform ok for the track I run which has fast long straights similar to the Glen. My future plans are to use cobalt friction pads on Racing brake rotors.

toehead93 · 10-24-2013, 07:49 PM

My HP+ pads with racing bake rotors up front were fine at the Daytona road course but one day at Sebring on the short course and they were toast. I started getting less stopping power in the second part of the 3rd session and at the end of the 4th session they went out, luckly as i was exiting the track. I will be looking to do a CTS-V upgrade which ironically I have for sale or Cobalt Friction pads for track days.

The HP+ plus pads stop much better than the stock pads and have geat initial bite, but IMO are better suited for autocross.

10-23-2013, 11:22 PM	#32
So Cal Camaro So Cal Race Team Drives: 2013 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny So Cal Posts: 3,584	My experience with HP+ pads were they squeeled constantly unless you were driving hard on the track...my Cobalt Friction pads only occasionally make noise on the street.... __________________

10-24-2013, 12:00 AM	#34
So Cal Camaro So Cal Race Team Drives: 2013 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny So Cal Posts: 3,584	You'll love the Cobalt Friction pads...they work great! __________________

10-24-2013, 11:25 AM	#37
Orange Crush 1LE Drives: 2022 SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,086	Thanks for the info. Next time I need to turn or replace my rotors, I'll try the Cobalt Friction pads. For now I'll stick with the HP+, as they work well on the tracks that I drive. __________________ Sold but not forgotten! Pedders Supercar Coilovers, 32mm rear sway bar,bushings; APR wing and splitter Forged 416 road course stroker. 514 RWHP, 497 RW Ft-Lb 1 Camaro, 75 Vipers: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393697 Buttonwillow Raceway: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389086

10-24-2013, 06:17 PM	#40
td195f Drives: 2015 Z/28 #786 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Hastings, NY Posts: 475	Mike, Hawk HP+'s are the pads I had on at Watkins Glen that I ended up taking off after I got the meatball flag two mornings in a row for sparks from the front wheels. The Trackmasters mechanic and I both found no reason fort the sparks. No signs of rubbing at all. After the second time we decided it had to be the pads. I put the stock Brembo pads back on and my instructor and I thought there was no difference in braking. Some people felt that the temp range of the HP+ pads are not high enough for a 4000 pound car and the braking required with the speeds at Watkins Glen. I won't run them again. __________________ 2015 Z/28 #786 - Black 2004 Silverado 3500 Dually - D'Max - Suncoast - Banks - Edge - Custom Tune by D'Max Tuner / Spitzer '32 Bantam Altered Drag Car - Blown Alcohol 380 CI Small Block Chevy

10-24-2013, 07:49 PM	#42
toehead93 Drives: 2014 2SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: wpb fl Posts: 3,136 View My Garage	My HP+ pads with racing bake rotors up front were fine at the Daytona road course but one day at Sebring on the short course and they were toast. I started getting less stopping power in the second part of the 3rd session and at the end of the 4th session they went out, luckly as i was exiting the track. I will be looking to do a CTS-V upgrade which ironically I have for sale or Cobalt Friction pads for track days. The HP+ plus pads stop much better than the stock pads and have geat initial bite, but IMO are better suited for autocross. __________________ Used Racing Brake 2 Peice Rotors for sale: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344754 Summit White 2014 2SS 1LE Recaros, NPP exhaust, Nav 2010 2SS A6 - sold.

10-23-2013, 07:21 PM	#29
ssmike BL1ZZRD Drives: '16 Camaro 2SS, '20 Equinox Redline Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 7,840	I've read that the HPS pads fade bad but I don't recall seeing any negatives with the HP+.

10-23-2013, 08:02 PM	#31
ssmike BL1ZZRD Drives: '16 Camaro 2SS, '20 Equinox Redline Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 7,840	Yea I'd like to hear any comments or experiences with them too! Maybe I'll start another thread asking about HP+ reviews.

10-23-2013, 11:53 PM	#33
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,544	HP+ were ok on shorter tracks but the faster I got the worse they got. Went DTC-30's and 6-pistons for now but will upgrade pads again when they wear out. Will be trying cobalt friction as well.

10-24-2013, 07:23 AM	#35
Rob@WretchedMS Drives: His Wife Crazy Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Silas Deane Auto,CT Name: Rob Anderson Posts: 1,789	DAMN Tbone, i'm impressed, lol Mike, i think you will be fine, just keep in mind when you are driving that if the brakes feel 'funny' at all it's time for a cool down lap or two. As you progress with things the Cobalt Friction Pads are very very good. I run the HP+ on the Street, and the Cobalt Friction at the Track, both with the DBA 5000/4000 Combo. This on the GTO with Brakes that are a lot smaller than your Camaro has on it.