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STS Guy · 08-27-2009, 07:09 PM

http://www.ststurbo.com/turbo_vs__supercharger

It is a debate as old as time itself....

2010SSRSM6 · 08-28-2009, 12:12 PM

Loved the GTO kit you guys did! Looking forward to seeing this kit under my Camaro!

STS Guy · 08-28-2009, 04:46 PM

That has got to be one of the most popular kits we have-besides the Camaro.
And thanks again for the kind words guys and girls!

dmack2k7 · 08-29-2009, 01:05 AM

here the convo me and ZZcamaro had. i hope it helps some people out.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmack2k7
any ideas on what i will need if i wanted to venture into the unknowns? (1000+ or something near it)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZZcamaro
Well here is the deal...and you will now be an expert on it, and can tell other people.

The single kit....They will only be selling the "tuner" kit. That means it does not come with computer tuning, or any fuel upgrades. You will be looking at about 250 for fuel injectors, fuel rails and maybe a pump, and another 500 for dyno tuning. You will be at 7000 then.

The other catch is that they are using a turbo which is CAPABLE of 750HP. There is no way the stock LS3 is going to handle that power for more very long. Also the dyno chart was shown at 8psi or so....

As for the twins...it is CAPABLE of 1000+HP, and it comes with everything that you need for install. I would also bet that at the same boost level, the STS will have a higher HP...Just from a cooler intake charge.

I hope that helps you a little in the decision process.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmack2k7
so i got a second question.
will the it make more power than the single turbo thats out already claiming to get about 750 horses.

7000 is quite a bit. but i would also expect twins to put out more power than a single

dmack2k7 · 08-29-2009, 01:05 AM

sts leads the way.

ZZcamaro · 08-29-2009, 01:30 AM

What we were talking about is the capabilities of each kit, and the contents of the kit...These HP capabilities are more than most people will ever see...more than most drivers can handle...and definetly more than the stock LS3 can handle.

People need to be sure they are reading these posts correct.
Be sure of which numbers you are readying...."capable of","HP","RWHP"

They are VERY different!

Jericho · 08-29-2009, 02:36 AM

Sounds sweet, now lets rock that V6.

*radz28* · 08-29-2009, 09:09 AM

Are there any plans for CARB exemption? It was my understanding the LS1-car kit was exempted (or there was at least an attempt) so I'm hoping STS might try to make this available to us worried Californians

Thanks

STS Guy · 08-29-2009, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radz282003

Are there any plans for CARB exemption? It was my understanding the LS1-car kit was exempted (or there was at least an attempt) so I'm hoping STS might try to make this available to us worried Californians

Thanks

Emissions are a breeze...The #@&*Q^@#(&*!@ CARB has taken years off my life. I will get the details from Mr Squires himself about the process on Monday. All is not lost with CARB, it has just been a nightmare.
Details to come

dmack2k7 · 08-30-2009, 12:58 AM

nice to see sts taking care of everyone. gotta love the customer service.....

*Mindz* · 08-30-2009, 02:58 AM

Glad to finally see someone from STS actually reading the forums. No one has called me back the 3 times I've called and left messages, nor has my e-mail inquiry ever been returned.

The numbers on the dyno chart look extremely nice and if the Camaro kit gets anywhere close to that, this is going to be one hell of a choice to make. I will keep my eye on you guys for sure.

*DGthe3* · 08-30-2009, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in a hurry

Besides the price, what is the difference in turbos and superchargers?

Thanks.

There's plenty of discussion all around the web on that subject. We even have a few here. Search for turbo vs supercharger and decide for yourself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by STS Guy

http://www.ststurbo.com/turbo_vs__supercharger

It is a debate as old as time itself....

Forgive me, but I wouldn't take a comparison of turbo vs supercharger from STS as the most balanced source of information on the subject. Sorta like asking a Chevy dealer if the Mustang is any good.

97one · 08-30-2009, 06:35 PM

[QUOTE=STS Guy;852823]http://www.ststurbo.com/turbo_vs__supercharger

I read that link...
What a one sided review..

Like a long winded salesman trying to sell you a 2010 ss for 5K over sticker and telling you it's a good deal....

I had a supercharger and it is INSTANT POWER , not like the LAG of a turbo !!

STS Guy · 08-30-2009, 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=97one;863792]

Quote:

Originally Posted by STS Guy

http://www.ststurbo.com/turbo_vs__supercharger

I read that link...
What a one sided review..

Like a long winded salesman trying to sell you a 2010 ss for 5K over sticker and telling you it's a good deal....

I had a supercharger and it is INSTANT POWER , not like the LAG of a turbo !!

Can't win them all. Thank you for looking and giving me feedback!

And what lag? May I ask the basis on that statement?

08-27-2009, 07:09 PM	#141
STS Guy Marketing and Sales Drives: P-R-O-J-E-C-T-S Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Orem, Utah Posts: 54	http://www.ststurbo.com/turbo_vs__supercharger It is a debate as old as time itself.... __________________ www.ststurbo.com matth@ststurbo.com Last edited by STS Guy; 08-28-2009 at 09:34 AM.

08-28-2009, 12:12 PM	#142
2010SSRSM6 Drives: My wife crazy with my C5 usage. Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DFW Posts: 6,558 View My Garage	Loved the GTO kit you guys did! Looking forward to seeing this kit under my Camaro! __________________ UNDER CONSTRUCTION......again......

08-28-2009, 04:46 PM	#143
STS Guy Marketing and Sales Drives: P-R-O-J-E-C-T-S Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Orem, Utah Posts: 54	That has got to be one of the most popular kits we have-besides the Camaro. And thanks again for the kind words guys and girls! __________________ www.ststurbo.com matth@ststurbo.com

08-29-2009, 02:36 AM	#147
Jericho Come see me. Drives: Chevrolet Line-up Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. Posts: 557 View My Garage	Sounds sweet, now lets rock that V6. __________________ When you have a finely tuned percision piece of engineering. Vin#30271

08-29-2009, 09:09 AM	#148
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,204 View My Garage	Are there any plans for CARB exemption? It was my understanding the LS1-car kit was exempted (or there was at least an attempt) so I'm hoping STS might try to make this available to us worried Californians Thanks __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

08-29-2009, 01:05 AM	#144
dmack2k7 Drives: 02 mitsubishi Eclipse SpyderGT Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: FT. Bragg, NC Posts: 100	here the convo me and ZZcamaro had. i hope it helps some people out. Quote: Originally Posted by dmack2k7 any ideas on what i will need if i wanted to venture into the unknowns? (1000+ or something near it) Quote: Originally Posted by ZZcamaro Well here is the deal...and you will now be an expert on it, and can tell other people. The single kit....They will only be selling the "tuner" kit. That means it does not come with computer tuning, or any fuel upgrades. You will be looking at about 250 for fuel injectors, fuel rails and maybe a pump, and another 500 for dyno tuning. You will be at 7000 then. The other catch is that they are using a turbo which is CAPABLE of 750HP. There is no way the stock LS3 is going to handle that power for more very long. Also the dyno chart was shown at 8psi or so.... As for the twins...it is CAPABLE of 1000+HP, and it comes with everything that you need for install. I would also bet that at the same boost level, the STS will have a higher HP...Just from a cooler intake charge. I hope that helps you a little in the decision process. Quote: Originally Posted by dmack2k7 so i got a second question. will the it make more power than the single turbo thats out already claiming to get about 750 horses. 7000 is quite a bit. but i would also expect twins to put out more power than a single

08-29-2009, 01:05 AM	#145
dmack2k7 Drives: 02 mitsubishi Eclipse SpyderGT Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: FT. Bragg, NC Posts: 100	sts leads the way.

08-29-2009, 01:30 AM	#146
ZZcamaro Drives: 2SS w/ ZZ427 Package!! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,700	What we were talking about is the capabilities of each kit, and the contents of the kit...These HP capabilities are more than most people will ever see...more than most drivers can handle...and definetly more than the stock LS3 can handle. People need to be sure they are reading these posts correct. Be sure of which numbers you are readying...."capable of","HP","RWHP" They are VERY different!

08-30-2009, 12:58 AM	#150
dmack2k7 Drives: 02 mitsubishi Eclipse SpyderGT Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: FT. Bragg, NC Posts: 100	nice to see sts taking care of everyone. gotta love the customer service.....

08-30-2009, 02:58 AM	#151
Mindz E.B.A.H. Drives: you wild... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the happy padded room wearing a jacket that makes me hug myself... Posts: 18,421	Glad to finally see someone from STS actually reading the forums. No one has called me back the 3 times I've called and left messages, nor has my e-mail inquiry ever been returned. The numbers on the dyno chart look extremely nice and if the Camaro kit gets anywhere close to that, this is going to be one hell of a choice to make. I will keep my eye on you guys for sure. __________________ Blue Rush, 2010 SS [Car of the Week 3/22/2010] Traded in on...ZLZBUBB, 2013 ZL1

08-30-2009, 06:35 PM	#153
97one Drives: 2016 & 1967 Camaro, 2015 Impala, +1 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New York Posts: 1,165	[QUOTE=STS Guy;852823]http://www.ststurbo.com/turbo_vs__supercharger I read that link... What a one sided review.. Like a long winded salesman trying to sell you a 2010 ss for 5K over sticker and telling you it's a good deal.... I had a supercharger and it is INSTANT POWER , not like the LAG of a turbo !!

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