01-05-2012, 09:29 PM | #71 | |
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However, the price is irrelevant when the demand is there...
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01-05-2012, 09:47 PM | #72 |
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Have faith, There will be a Gen5 Z28 how do i know? I have bean saving my cash to get one, and it will be out soon.
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01-05-2012, 09:51 PM | #73 | |
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Also, the ACR borrowed the same model tire that the ZR1 ran it's top lap on which were NOT available for the 2010 ACR when it was produced. Lastly, the ACR-X is a fully track built car, such as the Cobra Jet and is not street legal nor is it "factory" anything...and it ran the track wearing slicks, not street tires... As for the 7:41 to 7:12 comment, 30 seconds slower over a 11 mile course in a car that weighs almost 800lbs more isn't all that impressive honestly. Especially given that one is essentially a street legal, hand built supercar and the other is a muscle car.
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01-05-2012, 10:12 PM | #75 | |
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I think this was put best after the haters started coming out... "Are you really a writer for an automobile publication? When the ZR-1, then the GT-2, then the LFA hit their times, they were considered the fastest "production" cars around the Ring. Now that the Viper has beat the LFA, people start throwing out names of cars that could hardly be considered "production" cars. Are there faster cars around the Ring than the Viper? Heck yes. I (and most rational people) just don't consider them "production" cars. As for the ACR that just ran 7:12, it was straight off a dealer's showroom floor! Tires? Pilot Sport Cups. The same DOT tires that come STOCK on EVERY ACR. Modified 5th gear? This was a STOCK change made on EVERY 2010 ACR. Adjustable aerodynamics? The same STOCK ones on EVERY ACR. ... Official Timer? This can be vague, but most everyone (exepct Porsche) uses the same start/stop points. Video also shows this. One thing you didn't mention is that the car was set up by a race team close to the Ring. Does this count against it? No. The suspension was set up by them, but that suspension is the STOCK, ADJUSTABLE suspension on EVERY ACR." Very factual to say the least. Anway, enough of this. I didnt want to get back onto this topic but false info is false info. Bottom line is everyone should thank GM/Chrysler for getting into the hp wars (and Ford with the GT for 2 years). That is why we have some many great 500+ hp cars to choose from and potentially including the Z28. I just hope it can keep going and the economy turns around so we can start seeing more of these cars on the streets. I wont get to own many of them but I sure like looking at them... and hopefully driving a few of them. |
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01-06-2012, 10:22 AM | #76 |
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Keep it simple. New posters review the thread. Read the OP's question. Keep it all within perspective. This has gone way OT.
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01-06-2012, 10:32 AM | #77 |
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Agreed...and I apologize to all for participating in this "off-road" adventure...
"Ultimate Halo Camaro" = ZL1, by corporate edict. Potential Z/28 simply offers another flavor, especially for those desiring the most nimble (for its size), entertaining, canyon road-worthy version, at the slight expense of all-out 1/4-mile performance. A "focused" purposeful Camaro. Just as the "original" was... Times change, but the raison d'etre of a Z/28 doesn't NEED to, nor does it HAVE to...and your confirmation of that is something called the BOSS... "Is This a Z/28 Disguised as a ZL1?" Again, we sincerely hope so... . |
01-06-2012, 11:31 AM | #78 | |
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Now on a side note, crash testing might be needed if the link points are moved which truly need to be done. The Z28 has an appeal of the blue collar man's super car and it backed it up on the track in the TransAM series. I feel it would hurt the Z28 if it were to lose this heritage with it not being track legal with MRC. I agree that only a few of us will take our cars to the track but I also see the Z28 selling less then the SS and more along the lines of the ZL1 as far as numbers go. This leads me to believe that while a small percent of Camaro owners will go to the track, a Large percent will be Z28 owners.
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Yes, a 1LE track pack will come forth in the Gen5 lineup. The Z28 will be held for the Gen6 structure, which will be in the 3,400 lb. ballpark. How do I know? A little birdy told me this afternoon on Funk and Wagnels' back porch..
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You've got a point there gramps...
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Who you calling "Gramps" around this forum?? At least you've got the creds to do so (as do I). There is a whole group of us on here that could show some of these young whippersnappers a thing or two!!
Back on topic: I think it is starting to look like a 6th gen. Z/28 would be the better package with the weight advantage that should happen, perhaps GM waited too long to do a 5th gen Z/28 because the cat is now out of the bag about what could be possible for the 6th gen camaro. If they do a 5th gen Z/28, I think well informed people like those on these forums will probably wait for the 6th gen, I do think a 5th gen Z/28 would be awesome looking as it would be so close in appearence to my favorite '69 version, but I just can't overlook the 300-400 lb weight advantage it appears the 6th gen will have. Clyde |
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