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MSull16 · 01-24-2017, 08:50 PM

Im getting American Racing headers next month and that will complete my current wishlist for my car. at that point I will have rotofab CAI, sw catback, American racing headers and a tune. My goal once I get the headers and tune is 420 rwhp. I talked to the shop about heads and cam pricing and they shot me with prices over $5k and of cource turbo/superchargers are going to be even more.

What else can I do for more power?

RS Speedriver · 01-24-2017, 09:10 PM

port your TB. and Manifold. maybe the wedge from vararam. squeeze a bit more out of it before cams and heads. i am in the same boat. i have the 2 things you dont and manifold porting would be my next project. 3.91s gear ratio set up the rear end. and thats it. then save up for cam and heads and maybe a 100 or 150 shot to finish it off. but yea good luck.

Gunmetal Speedster · 01-24-2017, 09:12 PM

You should definitely hit your goal with that setup. But if you're wanting more power while staying NA, cam and head combo is really your only other choice unless you dip into the giggle juice. But shop around. There is a place in Delaware called Horse Power Addicts I saw advertising cam installs for a LS3 starting at $1750 which is a crazy good price. I believe that includes all labor and a dynotune as well. If they were closer, I'd definitely be hitting them up.

RS Speedriver · 01-24-2017, 09:16 PM

head i heard of them. but for me its a 44 hour drive to that shop. and 4400 ish km one way. so it would be a fun road trip forsure. but if only there were shops like them closer to home would be awesome. cuz for that price cant go wrong.

Gunmetal Speedster · 01-24-2017, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RS Speedriver

head i heard of them. but for me its a 44 hour drive to that shop. and 4400 ish km one way. so it would be a fun road trip forsure. but if only there were shops like them closer to home would be awesome. cuz for that price cant go wrong.

Exactly haha. I think they should invest in a car moving package as well

bring in customers that are less than ideal driving distances from them.

Roto-fab 1 · 01-24-2017, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MSull16

Im getting American Racing headers next month and that will complete my current wishlist for my car. at that point I will have rotofab CAI, sw catback, American racing headers and a tune. My goal once I get the headers and tune is 420 rwhp. I talked to the shop about heads and cam pricing and they shot me with prices over $5k and of cource turbo/superchargers are going to be even more.

What else can I do for more power?

Thanks for choosing then Roto-fab CAI, and please let me know if you ever have any questions or concerns about the system!

Michael

Frans96ss · 03-16-2017, 07:21 PM

Give us a call when you are ready for more. We can tell you whats best for the budget you have.

lazerlemonta · 03-16-2017, 08:20 PM

Take a look at my signature. Bolt ons done right can make good power

Bo White · 03-16-2017, 08:39 PM

Porting.

2012OrangeVert · 03-16-2017, 09:44 PM

Its a small thing, but he could do an underdrive pulley .

Bo White · 03-16-2017, 10:20 PM

It's about the same gain as a ported TB. It's worth doing but I usually tell people to wait on doing until cam swap.

InFiD3ViL · 03-17-2017, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo White

It's about the same gain as a ported TB. It's worth doing but I usually tell people to wait on doing until cam swap.

Is the electric water pump worth doing?

My concern is reliability. I'm sure it can't be more than 5-7 HP? But that, along with an UD pulley, PTB and even rod mod...the numbers start adding up.

Bo White · 03-17-2017, 01:25 AM

It does. Can't do racer math with it but it does add up to a degree. I haven't heard of any issues with good epumps but not sure on how much they are driven.

lazerlemonta · 03-17-2017, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by InFiD3ViL

Is the electric water pump worth doing?

My concern is reliability. I'm sure it can't be more than 5-7 HP? But that, along with an UD pulley, PTB and even rod mod...the numbers start adding up.

I have 5k miles on mine already and I have several friends with cars that have 20k - 40k miles on theirs. Its reasonable to send them to Mezier and get them rebuilt as well. When that time comes you have them take the bearing off the motor. Great thing about the Mezier is you can do away with all the tensioner pulleys and end up with just a short belt on the AC and alternator like this. This alone frees up the engine and lets it be a little more responsive. Sorry for the dirty engine bay I daily my car and yes the Mezier has a little weep to it, that's pretty much the way they are.

01-24-2017, 08:50 PM	#1
MSull16 Drives: '10 Camaro SS LS3 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Marlyand/DC Posts: 245	What next? Or am I done? Im getting American Racing headers next month and that will complete my current wishlist for my car. at that point I will have rotofab CAI, sw catback, American racing headers and a tune. My goal once I get the headers and tune is 420 rwhp. I talked to the shop about heads and cam pricing and they shot me with prices over $5k and of cource turbo/superchargers are going to be even more. What else can I do for more power?

01-24-2017, 09:12 PM	#3
Gunmetal Speedster Drives: Savitar; The 500rwhp N/A Monster! Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Middletown, Ohio Posts: 2,914 View My Garage	You should definitely hit your goal with that setup. But if you're wanting more power while staying NA, cam and head combo is really your only other choice unless you dip into the giggle juice. But shop around. There is a place in Delaware called Horse Power Addicts I saw advertising cam installs for a LS3 starting at $1750 which is a crazy good price. I believe that includes all labor and a dynotune as well. If they were closer, I'd definitely be hitting them up. __________________ **SOLD504HP/433**TQ \| Night Fury cammed • Cold Air Inductions intake • Bo White ported TB • Speed Engineering 1 7/8 longtubes • NPP catback • QTP low profile cutouts • Powerbond 25% UDP • 3.73 gears • JRE scoop • ZL1 grille • R1 Concepts drilled/slotted rotors • built/tuned by Weapon X Motorsports Instagram \| YouTube \| Build Thread

03-16-2017, 08:20 PM	#8
lazerlemonta Drives: 2010 C6 1LT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 877 View My Garage	Take a look at my signature. Bolt ons done right can make good power __________________ 2010 C6 JET STREAM BLUE BOLT ONS TO THE EXTREME, GPI 281cc HEADS, Darth_V8r SPEC CAM, FAST 102 INTAKE, CRANK SCRAPER, QUARTER MASTER 7.25" CLUTCH, RPM 3.90 STAGE II DIF, Z51 Gear Set AND E85 Best ET 10.58 @ 131.8 stock heads and stock cam 453/445 SAE 10.62@134.82 GPI 281CC Heads, SS4 Cam and X1 Intake Best 1/8 6.80@105.75 Best MPH 134.82

01-24-2017, 09:10 PM	#2
RS Speedriver Drives: 2018 camaro 1ss 1LE Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: B.C. Pitt Meadows Posts: 305 View My Garage	port your TB. and Manifold. maybe the wedge from vararam. squeeze a bit more out of it before cams and heads. i am in the same boat. i have the 2 things you dont and manifold porting would be my next project. 3.91s gear ratio set up the rear end. and thats it. then save up for cam and heads and maybe a 100 or 150 shot to finish it off. but yea good luck.

01-24-2017, 09:16 PM	#4
RS Speedriver Drives: 2018 camaro 1ss 1LE Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: B.C. Pitt Meadows Posts: 305 View My Garage	head i heard of them. but for me its a 44 hour drive to that shop. and 4400 ish km one way. so it would be a fun road trip forsure. but if only there were shops like them closer to home would be awesome. cuz for that price cant go wrong.

03-16-2017, 07:21 PM	#7
Frans96ss Drives: 96SS Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Castle Delaware Posts: 1,948	Give us a call when you are ready for more. We can tell you whats best for the budget you have.

03-16-2017, 08:39 PM	#9
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	Porting.

03-16-2017, 09:44 PM	#10
2012OrangeVert Drives: 2012 Orange 2SS/RS Convertible Join Date: May 2016 Location: Saint Louis, Mo. Posts: 227 View My Garage	Its a small thing, but he could do an underdrive pulley .

03-16-2017, 10:20 PM	#11
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	It's about the same gain as a ported TB. It's worth doing but I usually tell people to wait on doing until cam swap.

03-17-2017, 01:25 AM	#13
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,019	It does. Can't do racer math with it but it does add up to a degree. I haven't heard of any issues with good epumps but not sure on how much they are driven.