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mbacamaross · 03-26-2010, 10:48 AM

heres a good read on dynojet and mustang dyno

http://g35driver.com/forums/engine-d...good-read.html

i didnt copy and paste because i dont want to steer off this thread, its just incase someone has any questions about the 2 dynos.

this thread is for people to give ideas an opinions on my specific mods and tune.

litle88 · 03-26-2010, 11:23 AM

Here you go!
the lower graphlines are the pretune and the slightly higher are the post-tuned.
The AFR that dips LOW is the pre-tune AFR and the steady one is post-tuned

FINALLY! Sorry about that!

mbacamaross · 03-26-2010, 12:12 PM

Lol!! Litle88 u posted my dyno comparison to yours!! Ummm yeah u kick my ass!!!
I ll send u mine only in a few so u can post!! Lol

Mister HP · 03-26-2010, 12:19 PM

Another thing to consider, the Vararam is a true ram air intake, and needs the air moving across the front of the car. Even if the tuner used a huge fan, it's still not duplicating the amount of air going across the front of the car when it's moving down the road.

I have seen this for years on other GM cars with Vararam, the dyno numbers are not much higher than other CAI kits, but the improvements in ET are definately there, usually 2-3 tenths in the 1/4 mile.

hope this helps

axis · 03-26-2010, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbacamaross

heres a good read on dynojet and mustang dyno

http://g35driver.com/forums/engine-d...good-read.html

i didnt copy and paste because i dont want to steer off this thread, its just incase someone has any questions about the 2 dynos.

this thread is for people to give ideas an opinions on my specific mods and tune.

It's all in the numbers you plug into the correction. That's why a pre and post mod dyno tells the actual change. We've all seen DJ and Mustang numbers that have varied quite a bit. Bottom line, if you're happy, that's all that really matters.

litle88 · 03-26-2010, 01:43 PM

Mr. HP yes I did notice that by the way it seal to the back of the radiator core support and the way the radiator is angled as well. I agree it is a nice unit, so we'll see at the track!

litle88 · 03-26-2010, 01:46 PM

Hopefully I can get MBACamaroSS to join the NMRA vs NMCA at Rt66 in July! and represent you guys.

Meister@Torq · 03-26-2010, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister HP

Another thing to consider, the Vararam is a true ram air intake, and needs the air moving across the front of the car. Even if the tuner used a huge fan, it's still not duplicating the amount of air going across the front of the car when it's moving down the road.

I have seen this for years on other GM cars with Vararam, the dyno numbers are not much higher than other CAI kits, but the improvements in ET are definately there, usually 2-3 tenths in the 1/4 mile.

hope this helps

Send me an intake and I will prove it if works or not. My two fans combined simulate about 50mph winds. Doing this with the hood open will generate as much air velocity as going down the 1/4 mile with the hood closed. Maybe their intakes simply do not make as much power as they claim....like every other manufacturer on the face of the earth

litle88 · 03-26-2010, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meister@Torq

Send me an intake and I will prove it if works or not. My two fans combined simulate about 50mph winds. Doing this with the hood open will generate as much air velocity as going down the 1/4 mile with the hood closed. Maybe their intakes simply do not do as well as they claim....

Thats what im talking about!

I hope you get all of their versions.

*TAG UR IT* · 03-26-2010, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanius

But his is tuned and on a mustang dyno, yours was a dynojet wasnt it?

Sure was.

That's the issue!

Quote:

Originally Posted by sales@vararam.com

Mustang Dyno's typically dyno about 10% "LOWER" than a Dyno jet dyno.

Stock L99's usualy see 315-320 rear wheel hp on a dynojet dyno.

VR Tech

Thanks. That's where I was getting to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meister@Torq

Send me an intake and I will prove it if works or not. My two fans combined simulate about 50mph winds. Doing this with the hood open will generate as much air velocity as going down the 1/4 mile with the hood closed. Maybe their intakes simply do not make as much power as they claim....like every other manufacturer on the face of the earth

Or you can try to search "England Green Dyno" with my threads and see several videos of my LS3 SS on a dynojet with the intake and the numbers it made....with ONE fan. Yep...it was nice!

*mlee* · 03-26-2010, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanius

But his is tuned and on a mustang dyno, yours was a dynojet wasnt it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

Sure was.

That's the issue!

It was a DYNOmite dynamometer made by Land-and-Sea..

Top of the line...

litle88 · 03-27-2010, 05:45 AM

Tag ur it, on the dyno sheets you can see it was registered on the dyno with a weight of 3850.
I'm sorry but I've seen your thread with the green Dyno and that's a whole different debate over there. Besides yours is an Ls3 and that's another issue. I just want to see more L99 guys with similar mods to chime in really to compare stats with, I'm sure with the units finally figured out and being shipped that we will see some results. But he is happy non the less.

towmoe · 03-27-2010, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meister@Torq

Send me an intake and I will prove it if works or not. My two fans combined simulate about 50mph winds. Doing this with the hood open will generate as much air velocity as going down the 1/4 mile with the hood closed. Maybe their intakes simply do not make as much power as they claim....like every other manufacturer on the face of the earth

That's a great idea! This would be a test by an independent person. If you are able to please do it on a stock car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAG UR IT

Or you can try to search "England Green Dyno" with my threads and see several videos of my LS3 SS on a dynojet with the intake and the numbers it made....with ONE fan. Yep...it was nice!

Why does everyone who as a Vararam resist another test by an independent person. It shouldn't be that big of a deal.

mbacamaross · 03-27-2010, 02:47 PM

Well i went with vararam because their job on c5's and g8's .. Im happy with it. Performance n looks.. I didnt expect the MAGICAL HP but i did expect a decent gain wich i did get.. Is it the best ? Maybe? Does it perform? Yes! Looks?? Nice.. Anyone want to test it?? Send me a prepaid shipping box n ill send it to you.. Everyone has a prefrence with after market products , with dynos, tuners,

but at the end of the day ..
dyno #'s is for show .. Prove yourself at the track!
NUFF SAID!
Am i right guys??

03-26-2010, 10:48 AM	#15
mbacamaross Drives: 2020 6.2 sierra 2022 zl1 camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 198	heres a good read on dynojet and mustang dyno http://g35driver.com/forums/engine-d...good-read.html i didnt copy and paste because i dont want to steer off this thread, its just incase someone has any questions about the 2 dynos. this thread is for people to give ideas an opinions on my specific mods and tune. __________________ ______________________________________ censored

03-26-2010, 11:23 AM	#16
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Here you go! the lower graphlines are the pretune and the slightly higher are the post-tuned. The AFR that dips LOW is the pre-tune AFR and the steady one is post-tuned FINALLY! Sorry about that! __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension. Last edited by litle88; 03-26-2010 at 01:42 PM.

03-26-2010, 12:12 PM	#17
mbacamaross Drives: 2020 6.2 sierra 2022 zl1 camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 198	Lol!! Litle88 u posted my dyno comparison to yours!! Ummm yeah u kick my ass!!! I ll send u mine only in a few so u can post!! Lol __________________ ______________________________________ censored

03-26-2010, 01:43 PM	#20
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Mr. HP yes I did notice that by the way it seal to the back of the radiator core support and the way the radiator is angled as well. I agree it is a nice unit, so we'll see at the track! __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

03-26-2010, 01:46 PM	#21
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Hopefully I can get MBACamaroSS to join the NMRA vs NMCA at Rt66 in July! and represent you guys. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

03-26-2010, 12:19 PM	#18
Mister HP Drives: Speed Shop owner Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Decatur, IN Posts: 199	Another thing to consider, the Vararam is a true ram air intake, and needs the air moving across the front of the car. Even if the tuner used a huge fan, it's still not duplicating the amount of air going across the front of the car when it's moving down the road. I have seen this for years on other GM cars with Vararam, the dyno numbers are not much higher than other CAI kits, but the improvements in ET are definately there, usually 2-3 tenths in the 1/4 mile. hope this helps

03-27-2010, 05:45 AM	#26
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Tag ur it, on the dyno sheets you can see it was registered on the dyno with a weight of 3850. I'm sorry but I've seen your thread with the green Dyno and that's a whole different debate over there. Besides yours is an Ls3 and that's another issue. I just want to see more L99 guys with similar mods to chime in really to compare stats with, I'm sure with the units finally figured out and being shipped that we will see some results. But he is happy non the less. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

03-27-2010, 02:47 PM	#28
mbacamaross Drives: 2020 6.2 sierra 2022 zl1 camaro Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 198	Well i went with vararam because their job on c5's and g8's .. Im happy with it. Performance n looks.. I didnt expect the MAGICAL HP but i did expect a decent gain wich i did get.. Is it the best ? Maybe? Does it perform? Yes! Looks?? Nice.. Anyone want to test it?? Send me a prepaid shipping box n ill send it to you.. Everyone has a prefrence with after market products , with dynos, tuners, but at the end of the day .. dyno #'s is for show .. Prove yourself at the track! NUFF SAID! Am i right guys?? __________________ ______________________________________ censored