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GameOv3r · 05-08-2008, 01:00 AM

Ok everyone, feel free to post your pricing predictions for versions of the 5th gen Camaro and debate.

I'll start with my predictions:

2010 V-6 (300HP) Camaro = $19,990 base / $22,390 loaded

2010 LS3 (430HP Z-28) Camaro = $27,990 base / $31,790 loaded

2011 (SC LS3 (505HP SS) Camaro = $35,575 base / $38,995 loaded

Now, the reason I think the V-6 is deff. 300hp is because of that new Genesis being a 300 hp V-6. I think Chevy would love for a V-6 Camaro to be able to take out a Genesis AND a V-8 Mustang.

The reason I believe the base V-8 is a Z-28 is simple....it's been that way a long time now, why change it now and confuse casual buyers. The only people that it matters to are the enthusiasts. Most casual buyers remember the past couple gens having the top model Camaro be the SS. I believe the Z-28 will have the LS3 at 430 HP, reason being the past couple Z-28 gens had a weird HP number like that (I know that might be a stupid reason to believe that). And second, why de-tune the LS3 to put in a Camaro!!! Come on, the Camaro is being RE-BORN, why they hell would they want to de-tune ANYTHING in this beast? And it's not like it will be faster than the Corvette.

Now I chose the SS as the top dog Camaro having a 505HP SC LS3 that we won't see until 2010 as a 2011 model. The reason I think the SS will have a SC LS3 is because I know deep down GM wants the top dog Camaro to have LS7 power. I recall GM stating that the LS3 is a toned down LS7. I ALSO remember them saying that the LS3 is BETTER than the LS7....which is probably why they ridded themselves of the LS7 and came up with the LS9. So my guess is a SC LS3 can equal the LS7.

I know there is a 5th gen engine/motor coming out, but I think it won't happen until 2011.

o2camaross · 05-08-2008, 08:55 AM

Ill agree with the V6 version and the base V8 version, but i believe the supercharged version will have more like 550 hp and will be available at launch. There is no reason for GM to delay the top dog. The competition (GT500KR) is already gonna be out there and it wouldnt make any sense not to make it available at launch.

*radz28* · 05-08-2008, 09:09 AM

+2 I think the V6 and V8 options (although I don't agree with the base being a Z28 yet) will be around those prices, give-or-take about a grand, but I think the supercharged version (again, assuming there is one) will be in the lower to mid-40s.

Stig · 05-08-2008, 09:10 AM

No way in hell a 505 hp car will come in with a base of 35,575.

JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

Here are my predictions:

BASE: 300 hp V6 3.6 - 19,900 base / 23,900 loaded / 26,900 loaded vert.

BASE V8: 430 hp LS3 V8 - 27,900 base / 31,900 loaded / 35,900 loaded vert.

Hi-Po V8: 525 hp LS? (Supercharged) - 39,900 Base / 41,900 Loaded / 45,000

*radz28* · 05-08-2008, 10:08 AM

I personally think if there is a supercharged option for Camaro, it will be more than 505 horse. Since it was speculated there was another supercharged 6.2L variation to replace the LS7, why would they only make it the same power as the engine they were superceeding? I don't understand why they wouldn't just use an LSA, but this was only speculation.

fastball · 05-08-2008, 10:23 AM

As much as I hate to say it, I think your HP ratings for the V6 and entry level V8 are a bit overrated...... I would guess the V6 will be 270 hp and the LS3 will come in at an even 400.

Other than that, I think your predictions look accurate.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 05-08-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by fastball

As much as I hate to say it, I think your HP ratings for the V6 and entry level V8 are a bit overrated...... I would guess the V6 will be 270 hp

The CTS's V6 is rated at 303 horses...so why wouldn't it be in the Camaro? Even the Lambda siblings are getting 280 horses out of the DI V6.

MY Guess:

~240hp DI Turbo 4 @ 19,995 base price (If it happens)
~300hp DI V6 @ 21,995 base price
~420hp LS3 Variant @ 27,995 base price
500+hp LSA variant @ 40+ thousand. (they're not looking to sell a lot of these, why not make a few bucks in the process?

)

Sphinx002 · 05-08-2008, 10:32 AM

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GothamCamaro · 05-08-2008, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

MY Guess:

~240hp DI Turbo 4 @ 19,995 base price (If it happens)
~300hp DI V6 @ 21,995 base price
~420hp LS3 Variant @ 27,995 base price
500+hp LSA variant @ 40+ thousand. (they're not looking to sell a lot of these, why not make a few bucks in the process?

)

You beat me too it, I was gonna add the DI Turbo to the list.

My guess is pretty much what you listed. I don't think they'll be alot of the 500+hp LSA variant either so why not tag it with a hefty price.

*DGthe3* · 05-08-2008, 11:45 AM

GAH!

I think we have had this discussion once or twice . . .

$20 500 - $24 000 V6 - 280 hp 3.6L DI
$28 500 - $32 000 Z28 -385 hp retuned L76
$39 000 - $42 000 SS - 540 hp SC 6.2L
those are starting - loaded prices, not ranges for starting. Oh, coupes only

This gives a roughly equal increase in power, percentage wise. Its enough to beat all the competitors of roughly equal cost

bigralph · 05-08-2008, 11:49 AM

I think you are right, but I think is going to be.

2010 V-6 (300HP) Camaro = $21,990 base / $23,390 loaded

2010 LS3 (400HP detune Z-28) Camaro = $27,990 base / $29,790 loaded

2010 LS3 (430HP SS) Camaro = $29,990 base / $32,790 loaded

Limited production 2011 (SC LS3 (530HP SS) Camaro = $35,575 base / $40,995 loaded.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GameOv3r

Ok everyone, feel free to post your pricing predictions for versions of the 5th gen Camaro and debate.

I'll start with my predictions:

2010 V-6 (300HP) Camaro = $19,990 base / $22,390 loaded

2010 LS3 (430HP Z-28) Camaro = $27,990 base / $30,790 loaded

2011 (SC LS3 (505HP SS) Camaro = $31,575 base / $33,995 loaded

Limited production 2011 (SC LS3 (530HP SS) Camaro = $35,575 base / $40,995 loaded.

Now, the reason I think the V-6 is deff. 300hp is because of that new Genesis being a 300 hp V-6. I think Chevy would love for a V-6 Camaro to be able to take out a Genesis AND a V-8 Mustang.

The reason I believe the base V-8 is a Z-28 is simple....it's been that way a long time now, why change it now and confuse casual buyers. The only people that it matters to are the enthusiasts. Most casual buyers remember the past couple gens having the top model Camaro be the SS. I believe the Z-28 will have the LS3 at 430 HP, reason being the past couple Z-28 gens had a weird HP number like that (I know that might be a stupid reason to believe that). And second, why de-tune the LS3 to put in a Camaro!!! Come on, the Camaro is being RE-BORN, why they hell would they want to de-tune ANYTHING in this beast? And it's not like it will be faster than the Corvette.

Now I chose the SS as the top dog Camaro having a 505HP SC LS3 that we won't see until 2010 as a 2011 model. The reason I think the SS will have a SC LS3 is because I know deep down GM wants the top dog Camaro to have LS7 power. I recall GM stating that the LS3 is a toned down LS7. I ALSO remember them saying that the LS3 is BETTER than the LS7....which is probably why they ridded themselves of the LS7 and came up with the LS9. So my guess is a SC LS3 can equal the LS7.

I know there is a 5th gen engine/motor coming out, but I think it won't happen until 2011.

Krieger · 05-08-2008, 12:21 PM

NA-V6 - 300hp
NA-V8 - 430hp
FI-V8 - 530hp

$20k to $36k thats Camaro.

$40k+ thats Corvette.

$40k + ADM (for a Mustang?) thats Shelby.

Please don't "Shelby" the Camaro.

*radz28* · 05-08-2008, 12:28 PM

+1; althought I don't think we're going to be looking at low-$40s for a supercharged version. I wish, but I don't think it's going to be reasonable.

JMAN311 · 05-08-2008, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krieger

NA-V6 - 300hp
NA-V8 - 430hp
FI-V8 - 530hp

$20k to $36k thats Camaro.

$40k+ thats Corvette.

$40k + ADM (for a Mustang?) thats Shelby.

Please don't "Shelby" the Camaro.

Are you saying that a 530hp Camaro will come in around $36K just cause it has a Camaro name? An average priced Vette is more like $50K+ new. A $40K'ish priced 500+hp Camaro seems like the only logical guess for that kind of powerplant it will have and also considering that it's probably going to have upgraded suspension, brakes, and exterior features. That doesn't make it "Shelby" It makes it a "Shelby killer". $40K is not too much to ask for a top of the line Camaro. Sure it's never been that high priced before, but it also hasn't been that high powered. Back in the day they charged $3K more for 20hp, a hood scoop, spoiler and some SS emblems. This would be a whole other animal from past versions so why wouldn't it cost alot more?

05-08-2008, 01:00 AM	#1
GameOv3r Drives: 2008 Chevy Aveo Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 85	Pricing/Engine/Motor Predictions Ok everyone, feel free to post your pricing predictions for versions of the 5th gen Camaro and debate. I'll start with my predictions: 2010 V-6 (300HP) Camaro = $19,990 base / $22,390 loaded 2010 LS3 (430HP Z-28) Camaro = $27,990 base / $31,790 loaded 2011 (SC LS3 (505HP SS) Camaro = $35,575 base / $38,995 loaded Now, the reason I think the V-6 is deff. 300hp is because of that new Genesis being a 300 hp V-6. I think Chevy would love for a V-6 Camaro to be able to take out a Genesis AND a V-8 Mustang. The reason I believe the base V-8 is a Z-28 is simple....it's been that way a long time now, why change it now and confuse casual buyers. The only people that it matters to are the enthusiasts. Most casual buyers remember the past couple gens having the top model Camaro be the SS. I believe the Z-28 will have the LS3 at 430 HP, reason being the past couple Z-28 gens had a weird HP number like that (I know that might be a stupid reason to believe that). And second, why de-tune the LS3 to put in a Camaro!!! Come on, the Camaro is being RE-BORN, why they hell would they want to de-tune ANYTHING in this beast? And it's not like it will be faster than the Corvette. Now I chose the SS as the top dog Camaro having a 505HP SC LS3 that we won't see until 2010 as a 2011 model. The reason I think the SS will have a SC LS3 is because I know deep down GM wants the top dog Camaro to have LS7 power. I recall GM stating that the LS3 is a toned down LS7. I ALSO remember them saying that the LS3 is BETTER than the LS7....which is probably why they ridded themselves of the LS7 and came up with the LS9. So my guess is a SC LS3 can equal the LS7. I know there is a 5th gen engine/motor coming out, but I think it won't happen until 2011.

05-08-2008, 09:09 AM	#3
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,192 View My Garage	+2 I think the V6 and V8 options (although I don't agree with the base being a Z28 yet) will be around those prices, give-or-take about a grand, but I think the supercharged version (again, assuming there is one) will be in the lower to mid-40s. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

05-08-2008, 10:08 AM	#5
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,192 View My Garage	I personally think if there is a supercharged option for Camaro, it will be more than 505 horse. Since it was speculated there was another supercharged 6.2L variation to replace the LS7, why would they only make it the same power as the engine they were superceeding? I don't understand why they wouldn't just use an LSA, but this was only speculation. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

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05-08-2008, 11:45 AM	#10
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	GAH! I think we have had this discussion once or twice . . . $20 500 - $24 000 V6 - 280 hp 3.6L DI $28 500 - $32 000 Z28 -385 hp retuned L76 $39 000 - $42 000 SS - 540 hp SC 6.2L those are starting - loaded prices, not ranges for starting. Oh, coupes only This gives a roughly equal increase in power, percentage wise. Its enough to beat all the competitors of roughly equal cost __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

05-08-2008, 08:55 AM	#2
o2camaross Drives: 2010 2SS/RS & 04 silvy Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Driving Posts: 362	Ill agree with the V6 version and the base V8 version, but i believe the supercharged version will have more like 550 hp and will be available at launch. There is no reason for GM to delay the top dog. The competition (GT500KR) is already gonna be out there and it wouldnt make any sense not to make it available at launch.

05-08-2008, 09:10 AM	#4
Stig Drives: 2001 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 125	No way in hell a 505 hp car will come in with a base of 35,575. JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Here are my predictions: BASE: 300 hp V6 3.6 - 19,900 base / 23,900 loaded / 26,900 loaded vert. BASE V8: 430 hp LS3 V8 - 27,900 base / 31,900 loaded / 35,900 loaded vert. Hi-Po V8: 525 hp LS? (Supercharged) - 39,900 Base / 41,900 Loaded / 45,000

05-08-2008, 10:23 AM	#6
fastball Banned Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS 6MT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 4,372	As much as I hate to say it, I think your HP ratings for the V6 and entry level V8 are a bit overrated...... I would guess the V6 will be 270 hp and the LS3 will come in at an even 400. Other than that, I think your predictions look accurate.

05-08-2008, 12:21 PM	#12
Krieger Drives: American Cars Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 97	NA-V6 - 300hp NA-V8 - 430hp FI-V8 - 530hp $20k to $36k thats Camaro. $40k+ thats Corvette. $40k + ADM (for a Mustang?) thats Shelby. Please don't "Shelby" the Camaro.

05-08-2008, 12:28 PM	#13
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,192 View My Garage	+1; althought I don't think we're going to be looking at low-$40s for a supercharged version. I wish, but I don't think it's going to be reasonable. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs