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Old 02-13-2017, 04:02 PM   #575
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I think the point trying to be made is that running the clock down would not be full proof. The way the Falcons played in the last quarter a fumble, blocked kick, injury of a key player or a number of other possibilities could have resulted in their loss. Maybe they were over confident, regardless, they lost.
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Old 02-13-2017, 04:05 PM   #576
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Of course it's not full proof, but the CHANCES of success would have been tremendous, had they run the ball out. It's what most teams do, to win games when they are up that much. There is a reason why statistically, teams that are ahead late in the game, have better rushing numbers, and teams that are behind have better passing numbers.
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Old 02-13-2017, 04:08 PM   #577
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And the point being made by Joe, is that of course Brady had a stellar 4th qtr/part of 3rd qtr, but that was in part because ATL allowed Brady to have the ball, by trying to pass and not running the clock out. Brady had the ball in his hands over 90 times. you can't win that way.
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I'm not defending Shanahan's play calling, in fact I wish to thank him. lol, What I am saying it was a total failure on the part of Atlanta.
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Old 02-13-2017, 05:25 PM   #579
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Right... Like Ali's Rope-A-Dope?

First off, that's Sonny Liston Ali has laid out on the canvass. The rope a dope was a strategy that Ali used to defeat George Forman in the Rumble in the Jungle to win his second heavyweight championship in 1974. Ali lost every round to Foreman in the fight. He was losing the eighth round when he knocked George out. He was not cruising to a win like the Falcons were, according to Mr. Made Up Irealavent Percentages, Joe M. says. If anything, Brady and the Patriots Rope-a-Doped the collapseing defense and the extremely poorly executing offense of the Falcons for the victory in the Super Bowl
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Old 02-13-2017, 05:28 PM   #580
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Hate to add fuel to the fire but there was nothing wrong with the plays called PROVIDED the Falcon's executed them properly. The whole team, from coaches to players failed in the 4th quarter.

Here we go again!

If you have a play call that puts you on a 99.6% chance to win the game, do you go with one that has much less chance?

Then again have one with a 98.1% chance, and throw that opportunity away as well?

No you don't.

You play smart, you don't roll the dice.

There is a reason why no team in the history of the NFL had ever came back from a deficit of 19 points or more in a playoff game. 0 for 93.

Everyone else that had these same very high percentage plays didn't opt to go with something different.

Again, the PATS did play fantastic, but Shanahan gave them the opportunity by bucking the smart play.
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Old 02-13-2017, 05:35 PM   #581
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So Bill is it true your were in Kyle Shanahan's head and he wet his pants on the sidelines?

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Old 02-13-2017, 05:35 PM   #582
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When I used to drag race, there were many times I would have a bi- run, could have pushed my bike across the finish line and got the win light instead of chancing a blown motor,did I?. No, always made a full pass, that's the mentality it takes to win, always wanting more. Just sayin'
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Old 02-13-2017, 05:47 PM   #583
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Your points are completely IDIOTIC!!!!!

You don't try to EXECUTE a high risk play when on two different occasions, when you have a play that gives you a 99.6% and 98.1% chance of winning the game. YOU DON'T DO IT!

ATL's defense held NE to a FG, burning 5 minutes off the clock in the 4th.
Putting their offense in position to simply RUN OFF THE CLOCK.

There is no better option available then the 99.6% and 98.1% options.
You DON'T RUN A PLAY THAT HAS A SIGNIFICANTLY LESS CHANCE!

ONLY AN ABSOLUTE IDIOT DOES THIS!!!

So far there are two people who would do this, Shanahan and Kenny.
Well, looks like 100% on waking up today and still clinging to his made up percentages fantasy. All those games that you are calculating these "percentages" off of, tell me this, in any of these games are Tom Brady the quarterback? Is Bill Belichick the head coach? Are the New England Patriots the team? Are they? This makes your made up percentages non applicable to them because they are excluded from sample set. Because something happens to 'X' doesn't mean it will happen to 'Y'. So you have been spewing misinformation, or to use something current, you are stating 'Fake News' . What are the percentages of the "M" in Joe M standing for MORON? 100%!!! Oh, almost forgot, have a nice day!!
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Old 02-13-2017, 05:52 PM   #584
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But not impossible
Not even close to impossible, but I beat Joe can make up some percentage for us. GO JOEY, GO JOEY, GO JOEY!!!!!
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Old 02-13-2017, 05:55 PM   #585
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Hate to add fuel to the fire but there was nothing wrong with the plays called PROVIDED the Falcon's executed them properly. The whole team, from coaches to players failed in the 4th quarter.
Wow, this guy is making a legitamet point, nice job!!
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And the point being made by Joe, is that of course Brady had a stellar 4th qtr/part of 3rd qtr, but that was in part because ATL allowed Brady to have the ball, by trying to pass and not running the clock out. Brady had the ball in his hands over 90 times. you can't win that way.
No, the Patriots defense allowed Brady to have the ball. Atlanta did not turn the ball over 5 times in a row, thus 'allowing' Brady to have the ball. Their lack of competent execution in combination with the Pats defense got the ball back in Brady's hands.
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Old 02-13-2017, 06:09 PM   #587
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First off, that's Sonny Liston Ali has laid out on the canvass. The rope a dope was a strategy that Ali used to defeat George Forman in the Rumble in the Jungle to win his second heavyweight championship in 1974. Ali lost every round to Foreman in the fight. He was losing the eighth round when he knocked George out. He was not cruising to a win like the Falcons were, according to Mr. Made Up Irealavent Percentages, Joe M. says. If anything, Brady and the Patriots Rope-a-Doped the collapseing defense and the extremely poorly executing offense of the Falcons for the victory in the Super Bowl

As expected, absolutely 100% incorrect information posted by you again.

The scorecard in the Al vs Foreman RITJ was not Foreman 7 rounds and Ali 0.

Every scorecard had Ali ahead.

It was as follows.

Scorecards in rounds: Zach Clayton 4-2-1 Ali, Nourridine Adalla 3-0-4 Ali, and James Taylor 4-1-2 Ali.

Ali was winning the fight! He wasn't behind!

I didn't make up anything irrelevant. The Falcons were 99.6% and 98.1% at the two points stated. That is 100% fact.

You are the one who CONTINUALLY posts inaccurate things.

I did post one inaccurate stat. That the Falcons had no holding penalties on a run. They had one.
Based upon running the ball 17 times. this is 5.9%

So based on this percentage, they commit a hold if they run the ball the 3 more times they should have a whopping 1% of the time. This is IRRELEVANT.

Your entire post is FALSE!
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Old 02-13-2017, 06:17 PM   #588
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As expected, absolutely 100% incorrect information posted by you again.

The scorecard in the Al vs Foreman RITJ was not Foreman 7 rounds and Ali 0.

Every scorecard had Ali ahead.

It was as follows.

Scorecards in rounds: Zach Clayton 4-2-1 Ali, Nourridine Adalla 3-0-4 Ali, and James Taylor 4-1-2 Ali.

Ali was winning the fight! He wasn't behind!

I didn't make up anything irrelevant. The Falcons were 99.6% and 98.1% at the two points stated. That is 100% fact.

You are the one who CONTINUALLY posts inaccurate things.

I did post one inaccurate stat. That the Falcons had no holding penalties on a run. They had one.
Based upon running the ball 17 times. this is 5.9%

So based on this percentage, they commit a hold if they run the ball the 3 more times they should have a whopping 1% of the time. This is IRRELEVANT.

Your entire post is FALSE!
Ali was laying on the ropes for five rounds ,did you even see the fight? Use your eyes and brain and not google. That is Sonny Liston on the canvass, so your percentages are WRONG AGAIN. HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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