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Supercharged SS · 08-13-2013, 07:22 PM

Since I jacked my other read thread up with a bunch of yahoo's I'll just make a new one. Chances are this will be jacked up again but what else is new!!

They got the motor pulled and torn apart this am. It does look like then when the car hit the limiter hard, the tb closed and forced the nitrous to pack up in the intake tube. When the tb opened back up all the nitrous ran in and was dumped in the first two cylinders it found.

It melted the one piston and started to crack the second. Some of the metal jumped over to the other side of the engine and marred up a piston over there. It also melted some metal into the cylinder wall where the piston was burnt up the worst. After cleaning the metal we found the it did leave an indentation in the sleve. The rest of the engine looked fantastic and still new.

Now what to do. It makes no sense to resleeve this block. That combined with all the machining needed to get it ready just makes financial sense to me. Ted opted to go with an ERL superdeck, stock cubes. The only setback may be the lead time on the block. TBD. The rods I have, Eagle (http://texas-speed.com/p-441-eagle-h...000-bolts.aspx), still look brand new. Not even any bluing. If they, along with the stock crank, check out, they will get reused. We'll need new pistions and that's about it.

The stock heads are fine but will more than likely be milled to bump the compression. The current calculated compression is 9:7.1. I guess Ted is going to dig up the whistle test(?) to get the exact number. So that will get bumped along with changing fuel from 104 to C16 which makes my life easier since the GN is also on C16.

Just add in an LPE nitrous controller and that's about it. It'll be back to the track and see what it'll do.

Supercharged SS · 08-13-2013, 07:36 PM

Sorry. I meant for this to be in the V8 Forced Induction section. I must still be traumatized from blowing this thing up!

litle88 · 08-13-2013, 07:42 PM

What yahoos? Lol

Sounds like a plan, I'm heading this route fortunately my block is ok! Bent exhaust valve misfortune for me bud. I'm going boost! Fak this NA stuff lol.

Keep me posted on your build bud.

Supercharged SS · 08-13-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

What yahoos? Lol

Sounds like a plan, I'm heading this route fortunately my block is ok! Bent exhaust valve misfortune for me bud. I'm going boost! Fak this NA stuff lol.

Keep me posted on your build bud.

Good luck. I'll try and keep this thread updated with the progress.

*mlee* · 08-13-2013, 07:50 PM

Yahoooo!!! Thread moved so I can be useful here.

rberns · 08-13-2013, 07:53 PM

That sucks. Good luck with your rebuild and hope it all comes out the way you want it.

Supercharged SS · 08-13-2013, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mlee

Yahoooo!!! Thread moved so I can be useful here.

Thanks!! When I get some time I'll fill you in about everything in that pm.

Detoxx03 · 08-13-2013, 08:13 PM

ERL block with Callie's rods and crank along with Diamond Pistons.

ToddB · 08-13-2013, 08:15 PM

Good luck with your car. It was nice meeting you and seeing your car on our vacation in july.

Supercharged SS · 08-13-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxx03

ERL block with Callie's rods and alont with Diamond Pistons.

Thanks! I will sent this info to Ted. It's out of my hands now. I'm just doing PR and finance.

I'm assuming coated pistons.

Turbo99 · 08-13-2013, 08:20 PM

So...your TPIS TB closed and caused this? Did I read that correctly?

Rockit_z28 · 08-13-2013, 08:21 PM

Good luck with the rebuild

Supercharged SS · 08-13-2013, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo99

So...your TPIS TB closed and caused this? Did I read that correctly?

It closed because the car broke the tires loose bad at 100' and it revved to almost 7400. It hit the limiter hard and the car shut the tb to protect itself. The car needs to protect it self from the driver more often!

Nothing to do with the TPIS. It's been money all along.

Turbo99 · 08-13-2013, 08:30 PM

LOL, I got it! I was waiting for the slamming shut TB saga to open up on TPIS. Good to hear you have no clue how to lift...lol

08-13-2013, 07:22 PM	#1
Supercharged SS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 11,927	Here's the damage and the plan to rebuild Since I jacked my other read thread up with a bunch of yahoo's I'll just make a new one. Chances are this will be jacked up again but what else is new!! They got the motor pulled and torn apart this am. It does look like then when the car hit the limiter hard, the tb closed and forced the nitrous to pack up in the intake tube. When the tb opened back up all the nitrous ran in and was dumped in the first two cylinders it found. It melted the one piston and started to crack the second. Some of the metal jumped over to the other side of the engine and marred up a piston over there. It also melted some metal into the cylinder wall where the piston was burnt up the worst. After cleaning the metal we found the it did leave an indentation in the sleve. The rest of the engine looked fantastic and still new. Now what to do. It makes no sense to resleeve this block. That combined with all the machining needed to get it ready just makes financial sense to me. Ted opted to go with an ERL superdeck, stock cubes. The only setback may be the lead time on the block. TBD. The rods I have, Eagle (http://texas-speed.com/p-441-eagle-h...000-bolts.aspx), still look brand new. Not even any bluing. If they, along with the stock crank, check out, they will get reused. We'll need new pistions and that's about it. The stock heads are fine but will more than likely be milled to bump the compression. The current calculated compression is 9:7.1. I guess Ted is going to dig up the whistle test(?) to get the exact number. So that will get bumped along with changing fuel from 104 to C16 which makes my life easier since the GN is also on C16. Just add in an LPE nitrous controller and that's about it. It'll be back to the track and see what it'll do. Attached Images

08-13-2013, 07:42 PM	#3
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	What yahoos? Lol Sounds like a plan, I'm heading this route fortunately my block is ok! Bent exhaust valve misfortune for me bud. I'm going boost! Fak this NA stuff lol. Keep me posted on your build bud. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

08-13-2013, 07:50 PM	#5
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08-13-2013, 07:53 PM	#6
rberns Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,291 View My Garage	That sucks. Good luck with your rebuild and hope it all comes out the way you want it. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, Circle D 3200, ADM Transmission Cooler, BTR Valvetrain, Cam Motion .621 .595 228/244 113+4, ARH 1 7/8 full exhaust, Cold Air Inductions, Katech C5R TC, Melling HV, BTR SLR lifters, Trunion Upgrade, LS2 Dampner, LS9 head gaskets, Bo White PTB, MM can, GFX, Subs, B&M Deep transmission pan, Holley fuel rail, Proform valve covers, relocated coil packs

08-13-2013, 08:13 PM	#8
Detoxx03 ЯєŧąяĐ Єl¡m¡иąŧøя ™ Drives: 2008 Corvette Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Woodward Avenue Posts: 876 View My Garage	ERL block with Callie's rods and crank along with Diamond Pistons. __________________ D1SC Procharger 932/758 on E85 A Futral Motorsports Creation https://www.facebook.com/DetoxxAtomic Last edited by Detoxx03; 08-13-2013 at 08:27 PM.

08-13-2013, 07:36 PM	#2
Supercharged SS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 11,927	Sorry. I meant for this to be in the V8 Forced Induction section. I must still be traumatized from blowing this thing up!

08-13-2013, 08:15 PM	#9
ToddB Drives: 2011 2SS Convertible Supercharged Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: WI Cert Welder Navy NSSN Posts: 1,157	Good luck with your car. It was nice meeting you and seeing your car on our vacation in july.

08-13-2013, 08:20 PM	#11
Turbo99 Drives: 08' F250 Diesel & 10' Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Gainesville,Fl Posts: 1,362 View My Garage	So...your TPIS TB closed and caused this? Did I read that correctly? __________________ 08' F250 CCSB 6.4L Diesel White & Black, Blacked out, 580RWHP @ 55psi 13.21 @ 101mph 10' Camaro 2SS LS3 M6 White & Black, Blacked out, 684 RWHP & 633 FT.LBS @ 10psi 10.82@130mph TVS2300 ,Hendrix Street Slayer Twin Carbon Clutch, Dana 60 3.73, DSS 1400HP Axles,JRe cam & LaMotta Performance tuned,LPE Fuel, AI Super Chiller,MT ET Streets

08-13-2013, 08:21 PM	#12
Rockit_z28 www.1baddogracing.com Drives: 2010 IOM 2SS/RS Auto Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indian Land, SC Posts: 998 View My Garage	Good luck with the rebuild __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Aqua Blue Metalllic (bolt-ons) 2020 Camaro 2SS/RS Satin Steel Metallic - Shock and Steel Edition 1 of 98 - A10 (bolt-ons) 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS IOM - 1,023 RWHP 813RWTQ (Previous Paxton Record Holder: 9.82@139) Built and Tuned by Heintz Racing Go: DSS 9", RPM Trans TH400, Carlyle Racing 15" Conversion, ECS Vortech YSI-B, Fore Fuel System, ID1700, Gall Racing 427 C.I LSX, Mast 285CC Heads, HR Custom Cam Show: Custom Painted Stripes/Badges (Orange Pearl over White), Z/TA Spoiler, VFN Hood, Weld Wheels http://www.HeintzRacing.com http://www.youtube.com/user/1baddogracing

08-13-2013, 08:30 PM	#14
Turbo99 Drives: 08' F250 Diesel & 10' Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Gainesville,Fl Posts: 1,362 View My Garage	LOL, I got it! I was waiting for the slamming shut TB saga to open up on TPIS. Good to hear you have no clue how to lift...lol __________________ 08' F250 CCSB 6.4L Diesel White & Black, Blacked out, 580RWHP @ 55psi 13.21 @ 101mph 10' Camaro 2SS LS3 M6 White & Black, Blacked out, 684 RWHP & 633 FT.LBS @ 10psi 10.82@130mph TVS2300 ,Hendrix Street Slayer Twin Carbon Clutch, Dana 60 3.73, DSS 1400HP Axles,JRe cam & LaMotta Performance tuned,LPE Fuel, AI Super Chiller,MT ET Streets