[sonnydurden]

I guess this topic will never die. I am very pleased with the direction and focus of the GM engineers, making an all around balanced car. Track capable and ready. After making the ZL1, 1LE, Z/28, Z06, and the new SS with MRC, just 29 more HP than the current LS3. The direction is clear.. GM wont chase HP so ya'll might as well kill that dream.

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

Hopefully, we are approaching the day when auto companies will say "enough is enough" and stop building these foolishly high HP cars for the general public (street users). I don't know if Ford or Chrysler offer a COPO equivalent (not street legal), but they should.

My fear is, if this HP race continues, our Government will eventually jump in and put a limit on how much power the general public needs to have available for driving around on the streets.

Umm what! You can't be serious?

[sonnydurden]

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

Umm what! You can't be serious?

I don't see why that sounds so far fetched..

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by sonnydurden

I guess this topic will never die. I am very pleased with the direction and focus of the GM engineers, making an all around balanced car. Track capable and ready. After making the ZL1, 1LE, Z/28, Z06, and the new SS with MRC, just 29 more HP than the current LS3. The direction is clear.. GM wont chase HP so ya'll might as well kill that dream.

I like the direction GM engineering has taken as well. Leading the segment by offering a well balanced car.

Ford has (will) followed with IRS, mag ride, proper tires, etc. so the next round will require GM to step up in power. Being balanced won't differentiate. The power level isn't important. Being able to run flat 11.0 consistently is in order to match up. Power beyond that doesn't belong on the street IMO. Cars will peak in this round.

I love my ZL1 and chose it carefully. It needs more power, has proven durability that can handle more power.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by motorhead

I guess it depends on if straight is all you're worried about. The hellcat has already beaten the new Z06 in that department a couple if times. If it can do that then the new ZL1 (if they call it that) better have more power than the Z06. For me, I don't really think it needs to beat the hellcat at the strip. It just needs to be attainable. The hellcat really isn't.

I've seen quite a few ZO6s, M7 and A8s best or equal the NHRA time with DRs for the Hellcat. Don't believe the hype, the Hellcat is not effective at putting it's power down. I'm sure the new GT500 will best it too. The real question will be how much better the GT500 will be and how much will the new ZL1 weigh.

[GearBangr]

Personally I dont worry too much about stock vs stock. I worry more about durability and modability.
Speaking of, has anyone modded the Hellcats yet? Pulley, tunes?

[DenverTaco07]

New ZL1 to have.....


1 Million HP

[sonnydurden]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

I like the direction GM engineering has taken as well. Leading the segment by offering a well balanced car.

Ford has (will) followed with IRS, mag ride, proper tires, etc. so the next round will require GM to step up in power. Being balanced won't differentiate. The power level isn't important. Being able to run flat 11.0 consistently is in order to match up. Power beyond that doesn't belong on the street IMO. Cars will peak in this round.

I love my ZL1 and chose it carefully. It needs more power, has proven durability that can handle more power.

This is what I like to hear.. Feedback from an actual ZL1 owner. I believe GM will increase the HP in the next ZL1, but it won't be anything crazy like 700 HP.. I'm guessing 615 HP..

[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by GearBangr

Personally I dont worry too much about stock vs stock. I worry more about durability and modability.
Speaking of, has anyone modded the Hellcats yet? Pulley, tunes?

Good question. I'm surprised we haven't seem what a full Bolton and e85 can do. Probably still fighting with the ecu.

[RealG]

2017 is going to be a big year for performance ! 50th anniversary of the Camaro, a hellcat fighter zl1, 50th anniversary of the Shelby GT500 with a TwinTurbo 5.0 the new 10 speed automatic. Great times

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by RealG

2017 is going to be a big year for performance ! 50th anniversary of the Camaro, a hellcat fighter zl1, 50th anniversary of the Shelby GT500 with a TwinTurbo 5.0 the new 10 speed automatic. Great times

I agree gonna be interesting and exciting times ahead!

[ULTRAZLS1]

Zo6 has gone 10.4 bone stock on stock tires. Even the ls7 zo6 got down to 11.0 stock and tens with drs years ago.

Hellcats arent touching that. What's the best stock time so far low 11s? High tens with a tire? They are a good match for a c6 zo6.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zv5RDzwS4g

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by sonnydurden

This is what I like to hear.. Feedback from an actual ZL1 owner. I believe GM will increase the HP in the next ZL1, but it won't be anything crazy like 700 HP.. I'm guessing 615 HP..

I'm guessing 640hp right under the Z06. We will see.

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

Hopefully, we are approaching the day when auto companies will say "enough is enough" and stop building these foolishly high HP cars for the general public (street users). I don't know if Ford or Chrysler offer a COPO equivalent (not street legal), but they should.

My fear is, if this HP race continues, our Government will eventually jump in and put a limit on how much power the general public needs to have available for driving around on the streets.

Originally Posted by Trans damm

WTF??

Okay... uncover your eyes and see reality. Auto manufacturers are only getting away with putting out 500+ HP cars because the Government lets them... because they get soaked for a Gas Guzzler tax. Eventually, the Government will say "okay, fun's over" and make a regulation against anything that doesn't get 30 mpg.

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

Umm what! You can't be serious?

Dead serious. Stick around another decade or so and you will see the end of (affordable) street cars that can't manage 30 mpgs. Oh... and you have your punctuation backwards.

Originally Posted by sonnydurden

I don't see why that sounds so far fetched..

The voice of experience, and reality.