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Rjgreen2 · 12-15-2013, 10:17 PM

Just about there! Probably won't try to start it up tonight tho, it's already 11 and I still need to put the headers on which is a pain in the ass, some coolant, and the spark plugs she "should" start up after work tomorrow, keep your fingers crossed.

Cali_Camaro_SS · 12-16-2013, 01:45 AM

Damn bro good luck tomorrow, hope all goes well!!!

f5journal · 12-16-2013, 09:56 AM

Just found this again..in time for the finish of the story....good luck....double check everything

hapisok · 12-16-2013, 01:45 PM

things are looking good...can't wait to hear it fire up!

Rjgreen2 · 12-16-2013, 02:08 PM

Yea me too, if I can ever get out of work today I can post a video later after the rest is completed. Lol

436SS · 12-16-2013, 03:07 PM

Praying everything works out great for you! Tell you what; I feel inspired to tear mine down, and there is nothing even wrong with it!!! LOL. Good luck bro.

Rjgreen2 · 12-16-2013, 10:17 PM

Well, don't know guys. I did start it up, oil pressure was good. First start up there was some white smoke coming off the headers, so I turned it off and checked around. I then started it up a second time and let it run for awhile. The smoke stopped (which I am assuming it was fingerprints, oils, dirt, etc...) I am sure that the AFR is just so screwed up thats why it sounds like it does, or then again, I could be wrong. So I am posting up a video here in the next few minutes and let you guys be the judge. I may just be over paranoid here. Here is what I did and you will see it in the video.

First start up checked the oil pressure and it was good,
Noticed white smoke coming off the headers
No leaks that I could see.

Second start up let it run for a few minutes to try and work things out, sounded to me like the AFR was out of whack. (maybe I needed the actual air filter on it)??

Third start up it cranked over but died in the first 5 seconds

Fourth start up it cranked over but died in the first 5 seconds.

Then I let it be, pulled the spark plugs (not massive amounts of fuel on them)

Took the bore scope to the cylinders again. Nothing of interest that I could see?

So again, this car has never been tuned and I have the CAI, LT's, P&P heads, and the new cam. Have I messed something up again or could it be the AFR?

Rjgreen2 · 12-16-2013, 10:26 PM

As promised, here is the video, fire away....

realcanuk · 12-16-2013, 10:33 PM

Its hard to diagnose anything from a video but it doesn't sound like anything is really wrong. With the changes you have made you definitely need to have the car tuned for it to run properly. I would also read up on proper cam and spring break in procedures before running it more. There is a right way.

litle88 · 12-16-2013, 10:41 PM

Heat cycle those springs.

Let it run til operating temps. Then let it completely cool off. Then repeat these steps for a few more times.

Rjgreen2 · 12-16-2013, 10:50 PM

Yea litle I will have to do that in the morning, little too late now. And thats if I can get it cranked up again, those last two "start ups and died" concerns me.

realcanuk · 12-16-2013, 10:59 PM

Don't be too concerned. You need tuning and probably idle speed raised some. You can heat cycle the springs. I would hold the throttle at 2000rpm until operating temp, let it cool down, then repeat. Just get it tuned before any hard running.

Rjgreen2 · 12-16-2013, 11:03 PM

Sounds good, I"ll get that done in the morning lol neighbors would be pissed if I started that right now haha. Thanks for the insight guys, I may just be really paranoid because of what happened last time.

firedrop · 12-16-2013, 11:20 PM

best of luck bud, read 99% of the thread.. that sucks that happened to you, but the knowledge you get out of it is worth more than the money

12-15-2013, 10:17 PM	#253
Rjgreen2 Drives: 2016 Chevy Camaro SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 290	Just about there! Probably won't try to start it up tonight tho, it's already 11 and I still need to put the headers on which is a pain in the ass, some coolant, and the spark plugs she "should" start up after work tomorrow, keep your fingers crossed. Attached Images __________________ Ryan Green 2016 Chevy Camaro SS Hyper Blue Metallic 2012 Chevy Camaro SS 45th Anniversary - SOLD (still kicking myself for doing that) Order Status 2000 - 1/4/16 2500 - 1/6/16 3000 - 1/7/16 - TPW 2/1/16!!! 3400 - 1/18/16 3800 - 1/30/16 - VIN# 145458 4300 - 2/2/16 4B00 - 2/4/16 4300 - 2/13/16 - Moving somewhere 4200 - 2/16/16 - SHIPPED!!!!! 5000 - 2/18/16 6000 - 2/19/16 - Its MINE!!

12-16-2013, 01:45 AM	#254
Cali_Camaro_SS Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS (BLACK) Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cali Posts: 868	Damn bro good luck tomorrow, hope all goes well!!! __________________

12-16-2013, 09:56 AM	#255
f5journal Senior Camaro Fanatic Drives: 2011 SS/RS manual - White Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: aiken, sc Posts: 1,980	Just found this again..in time for the finish of the story....good luck....double check everything __________________ Former '68 and '69 Z/28 Owner...........Now sporting around in a 2011 RS/SS with........Kooks LT's and cats, JRE tune, CAI, scoop, ZL1 Bumper conversion, custom ZL-1 grille, halo harness, Painted silver stripes, GM GFX, black painted lower edge of skirts and rear bumper. MGW shifter.....and now a 3.91 1LE diff

12-16-2013, 01:45 PM	#256
hapisok crazier than a coconut Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: virginia Posts: 1,547	things are looking good...can't wait to hear it fire up! __________________

12-16-2013, 02:08 PM	#257
Rjgreen2 Drives: 2016 Chevy Camaro SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 290	Yea me too, if I can ever get out of work today I can post a video later after the rest is completed. Lol __________________ Ryan Green 2016 Chevy Camaro SS Hyper Blue Metallic 2012 Chevy Camaro SS 45th Anniversary - SOLD (still kicking myself for doing that) Order Status 2000 - 1/4/16 2500 - 1/6/16 3000 - 1/7/16 - TPW 2/1/16!!! 3400 - 1/18/16 3800 - 1/30/16 - VIN# 145458 4300 - 2/2/16 4B00 - 2/4/16 4300 - 2/13/16 - Moving somewhere 4200 - 2/16/16 - SHIPPED!!!!! 5000 - 2/18/16 6000 - 2/19/16 - Its MINE!!

12-16-2013, 03:07 PM	#258
436SS Drives: 2010 1SS Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: INDY Posts: 271	Praying everything works out great for you! Tell you what; I feel inspired to tear mine down, and there is nothing even wrong with it!!! LOL. Good luck bro.

12-16-2013, 10:17 PM	#259
Rjgreen2 Drives: 2016 Chevy Camaro SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 290	Well, don't know guys. I did start it up, oil pressure was good. First start up there was some white smoke coming off the headers, so I turned it off and checked around. I then started it up a second time and let it run for awhile. The smoke stopped (which I am assuming it was fingerprints, oils, dirt, etc...) I am sure that the AFR is just so screwed up thats why it sounds like it does, or then again, I could be wrong. So I am posting up a video here in the next few minutes and let you guys be the judge. I may just be over paranoid here. Here is what I did and you will see it in the video. First start up checked the oil pressure and it was good, Noticed white smoke coming off the headers No leaks that I could see. Second start up let it run for a few minutes to try and work things out, sounded to me like the AFR was out of whack. (maybe I needed the actual air filter on it)?? Third start up it cranked over but died in the first 5 seconds Fourth start up it cranked over but died in the first 5 seconds. Then I let it be, pulled the spark plugs (not massive amounts of fuel on them) Took the bore scope to the cylinders again. Nothing of interest that I could see? So again, this car has never been tuned and I have the CAI, LT's, P&P heads, and the new cam. Have I messed something up again or could it be the AFR? __________________ Ryan Green 2016 Chevy Camaro SS Hyper Blue Metallic 2012 Chevy Camaro SS 45th Anniversary - SOLD (still kicking myself for doing that) Order Status 2000 - 1/4/16 2500 - 1/6/16 3000 - 1/7/16 - TPW 2/1/16!!! 3400 - 1/18/16 3800 - 1/30/16 - VIN# 145458 4300 - 2/2/16 4B00 - 2/4/16 4300 - 2/13/16 - Moving somewhere 4200 - 2/16/16 - SHIPPED!!!!! 5000 - 2/18/16 6000 - 2/19/16 - Its MINE!!

12-16-2013, 10:26 PM	#260
Rjgreen2 Drives: 2016 Chevy Camaro SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 290	As promised, here is the video, fire away.... __________________ Ryan Green 2016 Chevy Camaro SS Hyper Blue Metallic 2012 Chevy Camaro SS 45th Anniversary - SOLD (still kicking myself for doing that) Order Status 2000 - 1/4/16 2500 - 1/6/16 3000 - 1/7/16 - TPW 2/1/16!!! 3400 - 1/18/16 3800 - 1/30/16 - VIN# 145458 4300 - 2/2/16 4B00 - 2/4/16 4300 - 2/13/16 - Moving somewhere 4200 - 2/16/16 - SHIPPED!!!!! 5000 - 2/18/16 6000 - 2/19/16 - Its MINE!!

12-16-2013, 10:33 PM	#261
realcanuk Drives: 2007 Corvette C6 983 RWHP Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 690	Its hard to diagnose anything from a video but it doesn't sound like anything is really wrong. With the changes you have made you definitely need to have the car tuned for it to run properly. I would also read up on proper cam and spring break in procedures before running it more. There is a right way. __________________ 2007 C6 vert, auto, F55, LT3 LME LS402 , WCCH 245 Heads, Pat G. Custom cam YSI / 3.0 pulley, ARH 1 7/8 headers, NPP Dewitts / dual spals, A&A dual pump fuel system. 3.42 polished gears, hardened shafts, Alky control meth, Cartech line lock, ECS axle loops, Trans brace, 6L80 built by me. ID 1000 injectors, comp rockers, Morel lifters, BT springs, Trend 3/8 pushrods, ATI 10% OD Damper Circle D Triple Disc stall 1009 RWHP @ 7000, 817 RWTQ @ 6000,

12-16-2013, 10:41 PM	#262
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Heat cycle those springs. Let it run til operating temps. Then let it completely cool off. Then repeat these steps for a few more times. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

12-16-2013, 10:50 PM	#263
Rjgreen2 Drives: 2016 Chevy Camaro SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 290	Yea litle I will have to do that in the morning, little too late now. And thats if I can get it cranked up again, those last two "start ups and died" concerns me. __________________ Ryan Green 2016 Chevy Camaro SS Hyper Blue Metallic 2012 Chevy Camaro SS 45th Anniversary - SOLD (still kicking myself for doing that) Order Status 2000 - 1/4/16 2500 - 1/6/16 3000 - 1/7/16 - TPW 2/1/16!!! 3400 - 1/18/16 3800 - 1/30/16 - VIN# 145458 4300 - 2/2/16 4B00 - 2/4/16 4300 - 2/13/16 - Moving somewhere 4200 - 2/16/16 - SHIPPED!!!!! 5000 - 2/18/16 6000 - 2/19/16 - Its MINE!!

12-16-2013, 10:59 PM	#264
realcanuk Drives: 2007 Corvette C6 983 RWHP Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 690	Don't be too concerned. You need tuning and probably idle speed raised some. You can heat cycle the springs. I would hold the throttle at 2000rpm until operating temp, let it cool down, then repeat. Just get it tuned before any hard running. __________________ 2007 C6 vert, auto, F55, LT3 LME LS402 , WCCH 245 Heads, Pat G. Custom cam YSI / 3.0 pulley, ARH 1 7/8 headers, NPP Dewitts / dual spals, A&A dual pump fuel system. 3.42 polished gears, hardened shafts, Alky control meth, Cartech line lock, ECS axle loops, Trans brace, 6L80 built by me. ID 1000 injectors, comp rockers, Morel lifters, BT springs, Trend 3/8 pushrods, ATI 10% OD Damper Circle D Triple Disc stall 1009 RWHP @ 7000, 817 RWTQ @ 6000,

12-16-2013, 11:03 PM	#265
Rjgreen2 Drives: 2016 Chevy Camaro SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 290	Sounds good, I"ll get that done in the morning lol neighbors would be pissed if I started that right now haha. Thanks for the insight guys, I may just be really paranoid because of what happened last time. __________________ Ryan Green 2016 Chevy Camaro SS Hyper Blue Metallic 2012 Chevy Camaro SS 45th Anniversary - SOLD (still kicking myself for doing that) Order Status 2000 - 1/4/16 2500 - 1/6/16 3000 - 1/7/16 - TPW 2/1/16!!! 3400 - 1/18/16 3800 - 1/30/16 - VIN# 145458 4300 - 2/2/16 4B00 - 2/4/16 4300 - 2/13/16 - Moving somewhere 4200 - 2/16/16 - SHIPPED!!!!! 5000 - 2/18/16 6000 - 2/19/16 - Its MINE!!

12-16-2013, 11:20 PM	#266
firedrop Drives: 2012 2ss/l99 a6, victory red Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: philadelphia Posts: 387	best of luck bud, read 99% of the thread.. that sucks that happened to you, but the knowledge you get out of it is worth more than the money __________________ 2012 2ss l99/a6 CAI, custom catback with flowmaster series 10s