Difference between Trifecta and IPF

[Untouchable Keeve]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I've PM'd the OP to see if he is still planning on a Trifecta vs IPF tune dyno test soon. Hopefully so.

While its obvious the IPF tune looks to perform pretty dang well, its not a direct comparison. Korrosion's car had an Injen intake, while the Trifecta dyno graph I put up was completely stock and likely on 87 octane...but who knows. Also it was on a different dyno, so that throws the numbers out the window.

The only thing we can sort of draw a comparison to, is the gains from stock tune to aftermarket tuned from each graph, but again as I said was the extra gains in the IPF graph due to a better tune....or due to also using higher grade fuel and having an aftermarket intake installed?

That is a good point Keith. Hopefully the OP will still have the side by side in the works. It was still nice to finally see a dyno for the IPF tune.

[10RsCamaro]

Updated: Please look at original post regarding what has happen!

[lscamaro]

Originally Posted by 10RsCamaro

Updated: Please look at original post regarding what has happen!

[SixCyl]

Originally Posted by 10RsCamaro

Update 12/06.12.

After talking to KmPrenger, I am going to summarize what has happen.

After talking to IPF for a few days, and a day before going to the track for 1/4 mile times, IPF did not want to work with me on cost. I have let the testing up to other members such as Korrision on his updates, but the trifecta vs IPF will still be unknown. Trifecta said they will give a free tune if someone has a IPF car, so that can be something to work with.

At the end of the day, IPF vs Trifecta for me will not be happening, but our v6 community having more options by the month is amazing and I cannot wait to see more to come.

Thanks everyone and lets see what will happen in the near future!
Matt

Bummer!

[BaylorCamaro]

ugh IPF why must you be difficult.

[KMPrenger]

We appreciate your update 10RSCamaro.

That is a shame. As I've said before, from the dyno its obvious the IPF tune performs pretty well (I'd love to give it a go!), but theres still too many variables to know IF it performs better than Trifecta or at least how much better at this point. If it were me, and I was very confident my tune performed better than the competition, I'd offer someone a deep discount on one of my tunes simply because it could result in a crap ton of sales after the fact.

Just my .02.

I hope we see more results soon.

[lscamaro]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

We appreciate your update 10RSCamaro.

That is a shame. As I've said before, from the dyno its obvious the IPF tune performs pretty well (I'd love to give it a go!), but theres still too many variables to know IF it performs better than Trifecta or at least how much better at this point. If it were me, and I was very confident my tune performed better than the competition, I'd offer someone a deep discount on one of my tunes simply because it could result in a crap ton of sales after the fact.

Just my .02.

I hope we see more results soon.

I'd bet their sales would go through the roof if they made more power in the comparison. I don't understand how u cant give a price break for the possibility of more sales

[chozn4service]

IPF = Isn't Playing Fair

In all seriousness, I can say Vince and Jerry at Trifecta are trying to do what is best for the community. They've been forth right in every way and for BNR to say they would give up a free tune to someone who has or can get the IPF tune for comparison just seems a little strange to me. Is there something to hide? Is this not for the betterment of the V6 community? All I know is if I was touting that what I had is the shyt, I'd be more than happy to show everyone that it is what I said it is, in my Dennis Green voice speaking about the Chicago Bears that they are who we thought they were, and we let 'em off the hook! Now if you want to crown 'em, then crown 'em, but we let them off the hook!

[Untouchable Keeve]

Originally Posted by lscamaro

I'd bet their sales would go through the roof if they made more power in the comparison. I don't understand how u cant give a price break for the possibility of more sales

Oh no doubt. There are a lot of people that are hinging upon seeing dynos to back them up, which is reasonable, since that is what they do when any other mod comes out. They want to see the proof of the gains.

[lscamaro]

Originally Posted by Untouchable Keeve

Oh no doubt. There are a lot of people that are hinging upon seeing dynos to back them up, which is reasonable, since that is what they do when any other mod comes out. They want to see the proof of the gains.

Yes, I want to see proof of the gains. I'd honestly have no problem doing a comparison since I already have trifecta but I think IPF should give a price cut considering the tester has to pay for dyno time as well. I honestly have the money to buy the tune right now but without proven results, I'm not ready to shell out what IPF wants for their tune.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by Untouchable Keeve

Oh no doubt. There are a lot of people that are hinging upon seeing dynos to back them up, which is reasonable, since that is what they do when any other mod comes out. They want to see the proof of the gains.

Well, we have the proof of gains, and honestly, there is around a 10% gain across much of the rpm range except the upper rpms which is fantastic.

I'm a big IPF fan, but as a Trifecta user, is this worth it for me? I simply need more data to make a good decision.

For someone with no tune, they'd have to determine if the IPF tune is worth it since it is significantly higher in price right now than Trifecta. It IS worth noting that the Trifecta tune wasn't much cheaper in the beginning, but now BNR is selling those at a great price lol.

[sycraft]

If Korrosion wants to, we can still test the Trifecta tune and go to the same dyno he used for the last run, which was at Lashway. BNR would be glad to do the comparison still, but the car has long tubes now....

[Untouchable Keeve]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Well, we have the proof of gains, and honestly, there is around a 10% gain across much of the rpm range except the upper rpms which is fantastic.

I'm a big IPF fan, but as a Trifecta user, is this worth it for me? I simply need more data to make a good decision.

For someone with no tune, they'd have to determine if the IPF tune is worth it since it is significantly higher in price right now than Trifecta. It IS worth noting that the Trifecta tune wasn't much cheaper in the beginning, but now BNR is selling those at a great price lol.

I'm def a fan as well, and after seeing this first dyno I'm impressed. I would figure they would be a little more flexible in letting someone help them show their stuff and get the word out.

You do bring up a good point of already being tuned vs. not, its kinda hard to put out money when you already have. For someone w/o a tune like me, this is a major win. Once I have the money, I'll probably purchase this tune.

But like you said, the price could infect drop like Trifecta, and with more power to left on the table, there may eventually be some converts. Lol

[rtcat600man]

From what I ahve seen, I would be hard pressed to spend over twice as much for the IPF tune compared to the Trifecta. Not for the minimum gains over what the Trifecta tune offers. Now I am sure their are those who will disagree and that is there right to do so. However, I am not about to dump by tune to spend that kinds of cash to replace it with another tune that has not shown it blows it out of the water. Still early to tell, but it is how I feel today.