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litle88 · 10-15-2013, 05:31 PM

^^^your conclusion, it's debatable. 4 months?

white ZL1 · 10-15-2013, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLSS

The dynos that I've seen show better numbers than anything else.

Please share them.

62nalide · 10-15-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLSS

I spent 4 months researching LTs and I came to the conclusion that Pfadt makes the best overall header. Pfadt makes a flawless product. If I had the money, I would have chosen them hands down. The welds and design are second to none. New leaders in LTs IMHO. The dynos that I've seen show better numbers than anything else.

Are you a tuner/builder? Did you spent 4 months dynoing every header out there? Or you read it online?

ATLSS · 10-15-2013, 05:49 PM

^^^ and your opinion is is probably bias seeing as though you've got Kooks in your signature. I called on several vendors and LS shops all over the country and those that had experience with them all had the same to say about Pfadt. I don't own Kooks and I don't own pfadt. My opinion, as you say is "debatable", is also objective. I'm always open for new facts and stats but everything I've read, heard, and seen all point to Pfadt as superior.

ATLSS · 10-15-2013, 05:55 PM

A little late on the trigger I guess. Lol. Anyways, I'm not a tuner and I not a builder just OCD when it comes to expensive parts. I'm not hear to argue with the kooks worshipers just putting in my 2 cents. Kooks, undoubtedly, makes an incredible product and no one can take that away from them or their owners. They have been a leader in headers for a long time. I just honestly believe there is a new "king of the hill".

62nalide · 10-15-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLSS

A little late on the trigger I guess. Lol. Anyways, I'm not a tuner and I not a builder just OCD when it comes to expensive parts. I'm not hear to argue with the kooks worshipers just putting in my 2 cents. Kooks, undoubtedly, makes an incredible product and no one can take that away from them or their owners. They have been a leader in headers for a long time. I just honestly believe there is a new "king of the hill".

After 15yrs of doing this I haven't seen a new "KING OF THE HILL" in headers. But if your happy with that product thats great whatever floats your boat. Nothing wrong with that but I still see $300 headers perform just as great as expensive "BRANDS" but i can respect your OPINION

ATLSS · 10-15-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 62nalide

After 15yrs of doing this I haven't seen a new "KING OF THE HILL" in headers. But if your happy with that product thats great whatever floats your boat. Nothing wrong with that but I still see $300 headers perform just as great as expensive "BRANDS" but i can respect your OPINION

I agree with you 100% chief! I have Stainless Power LTs on my SS, what they call a value brand, but the OP asked the question and I gave my opinion. I don't see spending $1600 on a non moving part but if I was made of money, I'd go with Pfadt.

LS3 SS · 10-15-2013, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ATLSS

I spent 4 months researching LTs and I came to the conclusion that Pfadt makes the best overall header. Pfadt makes a flawless product. If I had the money, I would have chosen them hands down. The welds and design are second to none. New leaders in LTs IMHO. The dynos that I've seen show better numbers than anything else.

LSXaddict · 10-15-2013, 07:24 PM

I read through that whole thread and I have to say I agree with LG. But my agreement with LG also brings me to the conclusion that TSP is unbeatable for price, fitment, quality, and performance

MarylandSpeed · 10-15-2013, 08:44 PM

These threads make me cringe anymore. It's like asking what football team is best, or who makes the best shoes. Members will post what they have or intend to buy as the best. Vendors will promote whatever brand they sell the most of.

My thought is, there are 4-5 premium header brands out there that will make within the margin of error on a dyno power wise. Really it comes down to the price, and the company behind the product. We sell a lot of Kooks and SW, and I am very confident that they provide the best value for our customers. If anyone has any questions, feel free to contact us.

Thanks!

kmm1412 · 10-15-2013, 09:23 PM

No offense to many of the vendors on here who I have purchased items from with great satisfaction but, as I know many of them do not carry them, even though they may sell the Kooks line, the Kooks Signature custom stepped headers are the real deal for performance. My tuner sells Kooks, but doesn't carry their stepped headers, and can vouch for it with all the 5th gens he has tuned.

Rage · 10-15-2013, 09:51 PM

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10-15-2013, 05:31 PM	#29
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	^^^your conclusion, it's debatable. 4 months? __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

10-15-2013, 05:49 PM	#32
ATLSS 12 Camaro 1SS Drives: Camaro 1SS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Southeast Posts: 84	^^^ and your opinion is is probably bias seeing as though you've got Kooks in your signature. I called on several vendors and LS shops all over the country and those that had experience with them all had the same to say about Pfadt. I don't own Kooks and I don't own pfadt. My opinion, as you say is "debatable", is also objective. I'm always open for new facts and stats but everything I've read, heard, and seen all point to Pfadt as superior. __________________ 12 Camaro SS M6 \| Cam \| LT w/ HFC \| Catback \| Intake \| Tune \|

10-15-2013, 05:55 PM	#33
ATLSS 12 Camaro 1SS Drives: Camaro 1SS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Southeast Posts: 84	A little late on the trigger I guess. Lol. Anyways, I'm not a tuner and I not a builder just OCD when it comes to expensive parts. I'm not hear to argue with the kooks worshipers just putting in my 2 cents. Kooks, undoubtedly, makes an incredible product and no one can take that away from them or their owners. They have been a leader in headers for a long time. I just honestly believe there is a new "king of the hill". __________________ 12 Camaro SS M6 \| Cam \| LT w/ HFC \| Catback \| Intake \| Tune \|

10-15-2013, 07:24 PM	#37
LSXaddict Drives: 1ss in Blue Ray Metallic Join Date: May 2013 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 384	I read through that whole thread and I have to say I agree with LG. But my agreement with LG also brings me to the conclusion that TSP is unbeatable for price, fitment, quality, and performance __________________ 2013 1SS M6 with Flowmaster Pro 10 axle back and CAGS shift skip eliminator

10-15-2013, 09:23 PM	#39
kmm1412 The Bolt-On Beast Drives: 2011 2SS/RS IBM w/CGM Stripes Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Jamison, PA Posts: 965 View My Garage	No offense to many of the vendors on here who I have purchased items from with great satisfaction but, as I know many of them do not carry them, even though they may sell the Kooks line, the Kooks Signature custom stepped headers are the real deal for performance. My tuner sells Kooks, but doesn't carry their stepped headers, and can vouch for it with all the 5th gens he has tuned. __________________ 2011 2SS/RS 6M Imperial Blue Metallic\|Cyber Gray Metallic Stripes\|Gray Interior\|Factory (KAE) Hurst Short Throw Shifter\|Sunroof MODS - 1LE Track Pack Suspension Upgrade\|Kooks Custom Stepped Headers & HFCs\|Cold Air Inductions Black CAI\|ADM Performance Scoop\|Vmax IBM CNC Ported Throttle Body\|Rx Extreme IBM Catch Can & Breather\|Borla S-Type Catback Exhaust w/Solo J-pipes\|IBM Heritage Grill\|LG ZL1 10 Spoke Replica Wheels w/Goodyear Supercar G2 Tires\|Z/TA Rear Spoiler\|463RWHP/459RWTQ Tune by Dale Cherry

10-15-2013, 08:44 PM	#38
MarylandSpeed Account Suspended Drives: 2012 ZL1 & 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,378	These threads make me cringe anymore. It's like asking what football team is best, or who makes the best shoes. Members will post what they have or intend to buy as the best. Vendors will promote whatever brand they sell the most of. My thought is, there are 4-5 premium header brands out there that will make within the margin of error on a dyno power wise. Really it comes down to the price, and the company behind the product. We sell a lot of Kooks and SW, and I am very confident that they provide the best value for our customers. If anyone has any questions, feel free to contact us. Thanks!

10-15-2013, 09:51 PM	#40
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