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HeaterMan · 03-04-2011, 09:15 PM

even after new clutch installed under warranty my trans is hard to shift until warmed up. i can deal with that.. but after warmed up the tranny is noisy. GM says it's normal and they demonstrated it on 2 other new cars that had less than 100 miles. evidently it's because of the lubricant being so thin. mustang gt guys are having similar issues.

rb · 03-04-2011, 10:14 PM

HeaterMan,
I'm curious about what kind of noise you're getting from your transmission. My new SS LS3 Camaro is only a few weeks old with about 800 miles on it. I've noticed that it seems to make a slight clunk or rattle noise when driving at very slow speeds (like in a parking lot) when I push the clutch in and release the torque and let the car coast. It's like it's coming from the output shaft or maybe even the driveshaft u-joints. Everything seems to work fine, I just really don't like that noise it makes sometimes. Is the noise you're talking about anything like this?

Cam 427 · 03-05-2011, 12:11 AM

Mine makes a rattling type noise when warmed up and in neutral with the clutch out. Push in the clutch, the noise disapates. I called Tremec on this and the said this is normal. The clutch is not stock and doesn't have "dampers" like the stock unit. This, according to Tremec, transmits the engine pulses more and cause even more noise. The gears must have more clearance between the teeth because the T56 in my 99SS didn't do this. No problems other than the noise.

HeaterMan · 03-05-2011, 12:21 AM

mine does exactly the same thing. also makes the rattly noise under light load in first and second gear.

rb · 03-05-2011, 09:44 AM

HeaterMan, Cam 427,
Thanks for the input, makes me feel better that this isn't just happening with mine. I wonder if switching to a synthetic lube like Royal Purple or Red Line might help. Seems like a good, high quality synthetic would be better and help this problem. I'd try that if I knew for sure there would be no warranty issues using it. I'll investigate it more before I try it.

And hey, great color choice on your cars!

Cam 427 · 03-06-2011, 12:17 AM

I heard both sides of the synthetic story. Some said it helped and some said it didn't. I would think it would not because the viscosity will be about the same. But it's a better lubricant, worth using even if it didn't fix the noise. I plan to use a synthetic when I change the fluid. The Tremec rep recommended using Mobile One synthetic trans fluid, which I've yet to find.
Looks like we have good taste in colors and cars!

ssmike · 03-06-2011, 11:03 AM

OK I'm going to end the "Silver streak" with my RJT!

Anyway, I tried Mobil1 and it didn't help, infact, made it worse! So I went back to GM stock fluid.

rb · 03-06-2011, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssmike

OK I'm going to end the "Silver streak" with my RJT!

Anyway, I tried Mobil1 and it didn't help, infact, made it worse! So I went back to GM stock fluid.

HA! I knew this wasn't just a Silver car problem. But hey, I just ran across this on another thread concerning using the Mobil1 synthetic ATF in manual transmissions. It came from member Eric Baker. I think he may have shed some light on this subject. Good catch Mr. Baker!

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/..._Synchros.aspx

Cam 427 · 03-07-2011, 10:49 AM

I heard about this, way back, about synthetic fluid being too slippery for synchros. It's true that the synchros rely on drag to work. Too little drag may cause a delay in gear alignment and may also result in in grinding if you force the shifter hard.
I used a 50% mixture in my 99SS and it seemed to work normally with no issues.

Dynabyte · 03-16-2011, 09:20 PM

I've just brought my car in a second time for this exact issue - I've got <300 miles on it so far. It started around 50 miles or so. Between first and second gear, sometimes between second and third there's a loud rattle that can be heard and felt. I thought it was the exhaust bumping up against something but that's been eliminated. It happens more often when cold, frequently when going up hills. At the dealership this morning I brought the tech with me, my advisor could hear it from 10 feet away. Even in just first gear - let out the clutch, start to engage the gas and then press the clutch in again (as if you would want to move forward just a few feet). Sounds like a ball bearing being shaken in a tin can. They stated that it's normal, and others on the lot do the same thing. I've had alot of manuals over the years and it's very annoying, and is getting worse over time. I'll be watching this thread closely for other's input.

piticu667 · 03-17-2011, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynabyte

I've just brought my car in a second time for this exact issue - I've got <300 miles on it so far. It started around 50 miles or so. Between first and second gear, sometimes between second and third there's a loud rattle that can be heard and felt. I thought it was the exhaust bumping up against something but that's been eliminated. It happens more often when cold, frequently when going up hills. At the dealership this morning I brought the tech with me, my advisor could hear it from 10 feet away. Even in just first gear - let out the clutch, start to engage the gas and then press the clutch in again (as if you would want to move forward just a few feet). Sounds like a ball bearing being shaken in a tin can. They stated that it's normal, and others on the lot do the same thing. I've had alot of manuals over the years and it's very annoying, and is getting worse over time. I'll be watching this thread closely for other's input.

Welcome to the club

nickconthejob · 03-17-2011, 08:03 PM

Glad to hear its normal.......I guess. I had mine out today for the first time. Slight clunking when down shifting or clutching in at slow speeds. It sounds like its real bad but seems to shift ok. I have the factory installed hurst. Its nice and tight.

dk818 · 03-20-2011, 01:59 AM

i have noticed the same rattling noise when i let the clutch out. i just bought the car with 700 miles on it, didnt sound normal to me.

if i pop the clutch out fast i can hear something rocking back and forward, do any of you experience the same?

Dynabyte · 03-23-2011, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dk818

i have noticed the same rattling noise when i let the clutch out. i just bought the car with 700 miles on it, didnt sound normal to me.

if i pop the clutch out fast i can hear something rocking back and forward, do any of you experience the same?

I don't hear the sound of something rocking back and forward. The problem has extended to clutch engagement, clutch release, and is now audible and can be felt while in gear unfortunately (to a lesser degree but it's still present).

03-04-2011, 09:15 PM	#1
HeaterMan Drives: 2018 PP GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: PNW Posts: 264	noisy TR6060 even after new clutch installed under warranty my trans is hard to shift until warmed up. i can deal with that.. but after warmed up the tranny is noisy. GM says it's normal and they demonstrated it on 2 other new cars that had less than 100 miles. evidently it's because of the lubricant being so thin. mustang gt guys are having similar issues.

03-16-2011, 09:20 PM	#10
Dynabyte Drives: 2014 2SS/RS/NPP Red Hot Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 264	I've just brought my car in a second time for this exact issue - I've got <300 miles on it so far. It started around 50 miles or so. Between first and second gear, sometimes between second and third there's a loud rattle that can be heard and felt. I thought it was the exhaust bumping up against something but that's been eliminated. It happens more often when cold, frequently when going up hills. At the dealership this morning I brought the tech with me, my advisor could hear it from 10 feet away. Even in just first gear - let out the clutch, start to engage the gas and then press the clutch in again (as if you would want to move forward just a few feet). Sounds like a ball bearing being shaken in a tin can. They stated that it's normal, and others on the lot do the same thing. I've had alot of manuals over the years and it's very annoying, and is getting worse over time. I'll be watching this thread closely for other's input. __________________

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03-04-2011, 10:14 PM	#2
rb Drives: silver '11 2SS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 109 View My Garage	HeaterMan, I'm curious about what kind of noise you're getting from your transmission. My new SS LS3 Camaro is only a few weeks old with about 800 miles on it. I've noticed that it seems to make a slight clunk or rattle noise when driving at very slow speeds (like in a parking lot) when I push the clutch in and release the torque and let the car coast. It's like it's coming from the output shaft or maybe even the driveshaft u-joints. Everything seems to work fine, I just really don't like that noise it makes sometimes. Is the noise you're talking about anything like this?

03-05-2011, 12:11 AM	#3
Cam 427 Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Washington Posts: 677	Mine makes a rattling type noise when warmed up and in neutral with the clutch out. Push in the clutch, the noise disapates. I called Tremec on this and the said this is normal. The clutch is not stock and doesn't have "dampers" like the stock unit. This, according to Tremec, transmits the engine pulses more and cause even more noise. The gears must have more clearance between the teeth because the T56 in my 99SS didn't do this. No problems other than the noise.

03-05-2011, 12:21 AM	#4
HeaterMan Drives: 2018 PP GT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: PNW Posts: 264	mine does exactly the same thing. also makes the rattly noise under light load in first and second gear.

03-05-2011, 09:44 AM	#5
rb Drives: silver '11 2SS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 109 View My Garage	HeaterMan, Cam 427, Thanks for the input, makes me feel better that this isn't just happening with mine. I wonder if switching to a synthetic lube like Royal Purple or Red Line might help. Seems like a good, high quality synthetic would be better and help this problem. I'd try that if I knew for sure there would be no warranty issues using it. I'll investigate it more before I try it. And hey, great color choice on your cars!

03-06-2011, 12:17 AM	#6
Cam 427 Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Washington Posts: 677	I heard both sides of the synthetic story. Some said it helped and some said it didn't. I would think it would not because the viscosity will be about the same. But it's a better lubricant, worth using even if it didn't fix the noise. I plan to use a synthetic when I change the fluid. The Tremec rep recommended using Mobile One synthetic trans fluid, which I've yet to find. Looks like we have good taste in colors and cars!

03-06-2011, 11:03 AM	#7
ssmike BL1ZZRD Drives: '16 Camaro 2SS, '20 Equinox Redline Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 7,840	OK I'm going to end the "Silver streak" with my RJT! Anyway, I tried Mobil1 and it didn't help, infact, made it worse! So I went back to GM stock fluid.

03-07-2011, 10:49 AM	#9
Cam 427 Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Washington Posts: 677	I heard about this, way back, about synthetic fluid being too slippery for synchros. It's true that the synchros rely on drag to work. Too little drag may cause a delay in gear alignment and may also result in in grinding if you force the shifter hard. I used a 50% mixture in my 99SS and it seemed to work normally with no issues.

03-17-2011, 08:03 PM	#12
nickconthejob nickconthejob Drives: 2004 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD a Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Albany NY Posts: 35	Glad to hear its normal.......I guess. I had mine out today for the first time. Slight clunking when down shifting or clutching in at slow speeds. It sounds like its real bad but seems to shift ok. I have the factory installed hurst. Its nice and tight.

03-20-2011, 01:59 AM	#13
dk818 Drives: not yet Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: so cal Posts: 36	i have noticed the same rattling noise when i let the clutch out. i just bought the car with 700 miles on it, didnt sound normal to me. if i pop the clutch out fast i can hear something rocking back and forward, do any of you experience the same?