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Mikamaro · 08-02-2012, 08:52 AM

Jimz...two taps will only activate competition mode which still have traction control and stabilitrac set more loose but if you want to get rid of the torque management , TC and Stabilitrac you need to hold down the buttom for 8 seconds.

Jims73z · 08-02-2012, 10:37 AM

Ok , last fishtailing run was holding the button down for a long time instead of two taps. So if I thought the two taps was off but with stability still on.
So for the quickest time everything off and slip clutch out of the hole and lift shift, correct ?

Dan2510 · 08-02-2012, 08:07 PM

I power shift at the track. Why lift?

Turbo99 · 08-02-2012, 10:13 PM

If you insist on "power shifting" at least put a 2 step on it so you don't rev it to 7000+ RPm every shift.

3rdgen3 · 08-03-2012, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo99

If you insist on "power shifting" at least put a 2 step on it so you don't rev it to 7000+ RPm every shift.

Im pretty sure thats higher then the stock rev limiter on the LS3.

formare · 08-03-2012, 09:52 AM

It is theoretically possible to "reduce" time with a burst of tachyon particles coupled with gamma radi...... oh wait minute.

Just a guess here - but your 60' are not lower than 2.x no?
I would offer slipping the clutch is not the right approach, finese the throttle - launch with only 1/3 to 1/2 throtlle then feed the engine throttle (as much as she can take) you will hear the engine start to bog if you are giving it too much throttle.

It takes the computer a while to recover from hitting the rev limiter. Its not just the timing your pulling when you hit the redline. I think you wouls see your times improve just by shifitng before redline using the clutch to shift.

strych9 · 08-03-2012, 09:56 AM

I always "no-lift" shift. This thread confuses me. My car doesn't bog at all.

As for the transmission and drivetrain not being able to take the abuse, that's BS. It's no harder on those components than a hard launch off of the line.

So, I guess if you want your Camaro to last, park it in the driveway and stare at it all day long.

formare · 08-03-2012, 10:04 AM

I think the ECM still has the "shift firmness" control on all the time. only way to turn that off is with a tune.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikamaro

Jimz...two taps will only activate competition mode which still have traction control and stabilitrac set more loose but if you want to get rid of the torque management , TC and Stabilitrac you need to hold down the buttom for 8 seconds.

HumanWiki · 08-03-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbo99

If you insist on "power shifting" at least put a 2 step on it so you don't rev it to 7000+ RPm every shift.

I have never lifted the throttle pedal on my car on my countless times down the 1/4 mile and not once have I bounced off the rev limiter. The only pedal that moves in my car during a race is the clutch. Never been an issue here and I still have OE clutch, shifter and rear-end with 560 tire in a blown car.

I don't get all this lifting business when racing.

strych9 · 08-03-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by HumanWiki

I have never lifted the throttle pedal on my car on my countless times down the 1/4 mile and not once have I bounced off the rev limiter. The only pedal that moves in my car during a race is the clutch. Never been an issue here and I still have OE clutch, shifter and rear-end with 560 tire in a blown car.

I don't get all this lifting business when racing.

+1

I've never hit the rev limiter, either. Just gotta be quick with the shifts!

Jims73z · 08-03-2012, 11:06 AM

So in review
Traction control button hold down for seven seconds or two taps or one tap ?

Launch and full throttle through shifts or
Lift or halfway ?

What is the quickest way to wrangle a stock as manual down the track?

Pro Stock John · 08-03-2012, 11:37 AM

I could be losing my mind here but on my car if I double-tap nannies (gah I hate calling it that), all I'm doing is turnoff off TC and then turning it back on.

If you hold down the button for 6-7 seconds it will turn off TC and Stabilitrak.

I've been racing with just the TC off I don't think having Stabi on hurts the run.

Jims73z · 08-03-2012, 06:24 PM

Ok reading through my
manual ( I know last resort ) it says two taps for Competitive mode which allows launch control and ALSO some traction control to minimize tire spin. One tap would have been preferred because it would have just turned off traction control and left stability on. My run is a two tapper which shows traction and stability are off but they are in competitive mode instead which explains my weak time.

John Deere Racer · 08-03-2012, 10:31 PM

I like chirping all 4 gears

08-02-2012, 08:52 AM	#15
Mikamaro MikeNoMaro Drives: A 2016 Challenger R/T M6 STP Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: America Posts: 2,375 View My Garage	Jimz...two taps will only activate competition mode which still have traction control and stabilitrac set more loose but if you want to get rid of the torque management , TC and Stabilitrac you need to hold down the buttom for 8 seconds. __________________ Track Day Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/mrgoodman2000/videos Built #83817, Born January 18th, Christened June 11th 2010, Stolen October 3rd 2016.

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08-03-2012, 09:52 AM	#20
formare The Milano Drives: 2017 Firefly ShipWorks Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chicagoland (Crown Point, IN) Posts: 1,877 View My Garage	It is theoretically possible to "reduce" time with a burst of tachyon particles coupled with gamma radi...... oh wait minute. Just a guess here - but your 60' are not lower than 2.x no? I would offer slipping the clutch is not the right approach, finese the throttle - launch with only 1/3 to 1/2 throtlle then feed the engine throttle (as much as she can take) you will hear the engine start to bog if you are giving it too much throttle. It takes the computer a while to recover from hitting the rev limiter. Its not just the timing your pulling when you hit the redline. I think you wouls see your times improve just by shifitng before redline using the clutch to shift. __________________ My first Love. She was called "Miss Carriage" (still cry when I think about her) 383, Muncie 4 speed, custom linkage mated to hurst short throw shifter.

08-03-2012, 09:56 AM	#21
strych9 I'll be back... Drives: Subaru, HD Road Glide Special Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 3,036 View My Garage	I always "no-lift" shift. This thread confuses me. My car doesn't bog at all. As for the transmission and drivetrain not being able to take the abuse, that's BS. It's no harder on those components than a hard launch off of the line. So, I guess if you want your Camaro to last, park it in the driveway and stare at it all day long. __________________ Bye bye, Bumblebee! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Build Journal My Garage GoPro Mic Hack

08-03-2012, 11:37 AM	#26
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	I could be losing my mind here but on my car if I double-tap nannies (gah I hate calling it that), all I'm doing is turnoff off TC and then turning it back on. If you hold down the button for 6-7 seconds it will turn off TC and Stabilitrak. I've been racing with just the TC off I don't think having Stabi on hurts the run. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

08-02-2012, 10:37 AM	#16
Jims73z Drives: 1973 z28 Rs , 2012 SS/Rs Blk/Blk M6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Laguna Posts: 197	Ok , last fishtailing run was holding the button down for a long time instead of two taps. So if I thought the two taps was off but with stability still on. So for the quickest time everything off and slip clutch out of the hole and lift shift, correct ?

08-02-2012, 08:07 PM	#17
Dan2510 Drives: 2012 LS3 2SS/RS IBM Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 143	I power shift at the track. Why lift?

08-03-2012, 11:06 AM	#25
Jims73z Drives: 1973 z28 Rs , 2012 SS/Rs Blk/Blk M6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Laguna Posts: 197	So in review Traction control button hold down for seven seconds or two taps or one tap ? Launch and full throttle through shifts or Lift or halfway ? What is the quickest way to wrangle a stock as manual down the track?

08-03-2012, 06:24 PM	#27
Jims73z Drives: 1973 z28 Rs , 2012 SS/Rs Blk/Blk M6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Laguna Posts: 197	Ok reading through my manual ( I know last resort ) it says two taps for Competitive mode which allows launch control and ALSO some traction control to minimize tire spin. One tap would have been preferred because it would have just turned off traction control and left stability on. My run is a two tapper which shows traction and stability are off but they are in competitive mode instead which explains my weak time.

08-03-2012, 10:31 PM	#28
John Deere Racer Drives: 2013 zl1 m6 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Williamsport,IN Posts: 915	I like chirping all 4 gears __________________ 2013 ZL1 M6 black on black 10 spokes 592rwhp 616rwtq bolt ons only www.mikenorrismotorsports.com Www.lgmotorsports.com