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Sgtrod · 02-11-2015, 10:02 AM

Greetings all,

On December 8th, 2014, I picked up new 2015 Camaro 1LE from PHIL SMITH CHEVROLET of Lauderhill Florida.

A couple of days ago I recieved a notice that my license was suspended!!!

Apparently the dealer jacked up my registration paper work regarding my insurance coverage.

I was driving around for 5 days without knowing my license was suspended... I could have been arrested! And lost my job, regardless of it not being my fault.

I immediately took care of it with the DMV and then called the dealer.

I contacted the General Manager RICH GEHRIS who checked my license online and stated " your license is active. I dont see your problem. I checked the deal and all looks fine".

Really??

Thats BS! I needed to demonstrate proof that I had USAA as my insurance provider in order to qualify for a certain discount, which I did....on the registration PHIL SMITH CHEVROLET put that I had GEICO....this resulted in the state not being able to verify coverage was in place for registration and my license being suspended!

This will ALWAYS be on my driving record.
In applying for some jobs, a suspension on record can be a disqualifier. Let alon the fact that it will, at very least, make you less competitive then the next guy.

el ess A · 02-11-2015, 10:34 AM

Don't fret. It won't be FOREVER. I get a notice from the state of SC almost every year because my classic insurance I have on some of my cars always forgets to notify them of coverage for my covered cars. The state has ALWAYS notified me that ~I~ needed to provide the proof to them by XX date or they would come and kill me (I exaggerate to clarify, but you get the idea). I'm thinking you may have had a notice sent to you from FL along those same lines and it was either lost in the mail or you don't recall getting one. But I don't recall as I haven't lived there in over 15 years now.

One problem that you had is letting the dealer do the paperwork without you verifying the information. That's on you.

If you have straightened it out with the state and they've reinstated your license because of the error, then they're acknowledging it was an error and simply corrected the mistake.

If you have copies of the paperwork, hang on to them, and in nearly 3 years from now (or statutes of limitations), if you have any issues surrounding your "suspended" license, then simply sue the dealership for fugging up your livelihood. But I don't think it will be an issue.

The way I see it, it's partially YOUR fault for not doing due diligence in ensuring the paperwork submitted was correct.

Just calm down and Better Call Saul!!!

snarky · 02-11-2015, 11:12 AM

Sgtrod · 02-11-2015, 11:40 AM

According to this logic.. If your engine fails, its your fault for taking the manufacturer's word for it and not inspecting.

They do this everyday and now Im paying for their mistake.

And the response made it worse.

I keep my criminal record, credit history and driving record squeeky clean.

Durring applications to work, I will always have to disclose the suspension.

For going in and taking a car stickered at $47,400.. I earned a suspension?

Yes, call Saul...but dont go to PHIL SMITH AUTOMOTIVE GROUP.

Im not on here to get everyone to agree, simply to state my facts.

If you do not agree, please post elsewhere.

Pace · 02-11-2015, 11:54 AM

If its a mistake by the dealer and you cleared it up with the DMV as mentioned above...then why would the DMV hold it against you?

Sgtrod · 02-11-2015, 11:59 AM

Because I never got a notice which I agree is unussual...but as seen above...many people will dismiss that it was not my mistake and find a way to place blame.

DevilsReject97 · 02-11-2015, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgtrod

According to this logic.. If your engine fails, its your fault for taking the manufacturer's word for it and not inspecting.

They do this everyday and now Im paying for their mistake.

And the response made it worse.

I keep my criminal record, credit history and driving record squeeky clean.

Durring applications to work, I will always have to disclose the suspension.

For going in and taking a car stickered at $47,400.. I earned a suspension?

Yes, call Saul...but dont go to PHIL SMITH AUTOMOTIVE GROUP.

Im not on here to get everyone to agree, simply to state my facts.

If you do not agree, please post elsewhere.

Contact the DMV, as there are ways to get it purged from your record. Additionally, I don't agree with the above poster about it being your fault. You provided the right paperwork and they filed it incorrectly. There's nothing you can really do in the interim.

However, in the future, I always recommend to have your insurance agent on the phone to assist with that part to prevent any future issues.

Jakey2SS · 02-11-2015, 12:02 PM

God forbid another human being made what was probably an honest mistake,

. People are so quick to start bashing others on social media.

JasonsEpicLife · 02-12-2015, 03:47 PM

Honestly Florida is the biggest hassle when it comes to stuff like this. I had a similar situation with my registration while moving back to Florida. The DMV allowed me register my car with GA insurance in FL and I asked was that ok and they were like yeah....2 months later they suspend my license and by that time I had everything switched over to FL. Of course I had to pay for someones mistake $170 but thats how Florida is no state tax so they get money in other ways!!

As far as Phil Smith if you are talking about the one on 441 they were the ones that went to bat for me and got my Remote Start installed when GM said no...That dealership got everyone involved and I didn't even buy my Camaro from them. However, the first few people I dealt with there weren't so helpful. I spoke with a guy named Tom in service and he went out of his way to help me.

JasonsEpicLife · 02-12-2015, 03:48 PM

And are you sure it was the Dealership and not the DMV they screwed me big time and its sitting on my record and they let me ride around for 2 months before even sending me a letter

kgendron71 · 02-12-2015, 04:33 PM

Your license was suspended because the dealer did what??? I'm really curious how exactly your licence was suspended by a dealers mistake.

el ess A · 02-12-2015, 05:12 PM

In every case, no matter where or what state I bought a new car, I had the choice to either fill out my own paperwork for registration or let the dealer do it. I let the dealer do it the first time. Took forever and a day to get my registration. Never again. I ALWAYS did my own registration/DMV paperwork from then on. Only one way to get it right. Dealers normally do the paperwork as a courtesy, or part of the "doc fees" but you are under NO obligation to allow them to do the paperwork.

Regardless of who does the paperwork in your behalf, YOU are the responsible party for ensuring the documentation is correct. It's this way in every legal proceeding I've ever been involved in. It's like your tax return. H&R Block may do it for you, but YOU are on the hook for whatever happens. And generally, when a mistake is made with paperwork, you have an opportunity to make it right. If you don't, then this won't be the last time they turn your over a barrel unannounced.

SO...the rape has already occurred so you aren't going to get your virginity back on this, so hopefully, in the future, you take control of your own destiny and this way, you can make sure things don't go south again on a registration.

DevilsReject97 · 02-12-2015, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgendron71

Your license was suspended because the dealer did what??? I'm really curious how exactly your licence was suspended by a dealers mistake.

Riding around with no insurance in most states will result in an immediate license suspension, and in some instances, possible jail time. When they screwed up his insurance reporting, it immediately flagged him for non-compliance which in turn got his license suspended.

Sgtrod · 02-12-2015, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonsEpicLife

As far as Phil Smith if you are talking about the one on 441 they were the ones that went to bat for me and got my Remote Start installed when GM said no...That dealership got everyone involved and I didn't even buy my Camaro from them. However, the first few people I dealt with there weren't so helpful. I spoke with a guy named Tom in service and he went out of his way to help me.

I have no experience with the service department, so I will explicitly exclude them. If someone wants to take their car there for service...thats fine.

But if your thinking about buying a car... BUYER BEWARE

02-11-2015, 10:02 AM	#1
Sgtrod Drives: Camaro 1LE Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Miami Posts: 118	FIXED...PHIL SMITH CHEVROLET... Greetings all, On December 8th, 2014, I picked up new 2015 Camaro 1LE from PHIL SMITH CHEVROLET of Lauderhill Florida. A couple of days ago I recieved a notice that my license was suspended!!! Apparently the dealer jacked up my registration paper work regarding my insurance coverage. I was driving around for 5 days without knowing my license was suspended... I could have been arrested! And lost my job, regardless of it not being my fault. I immediately took care of it with the DMV and then called the dealer. I contacted the General Manager RICH GEHRIS who checked my license online and stated " your license is active. I dont see your problem. I checked the deal and all looks fine". Really?? Thats BS! I needed to demonstrate proof that I had USAA as my insurance provider in order to qualify for a certain discount, which I did....on the registration PHIL SMITH CHEVROLET put that I had GEICO....this resulted in the state not being able to verify coverage was in place for registration and my license being suspended! This will ALWAYS be on my driving record. In applying for some jobs, a suspension on record can be a disqualifier. Let alon the fact that it will, at very least, make you less competitive then the next guy. Last edited by Sgtrod; 03-04-2015 at 03:40 PM. Reason: Issue Resolved.

02-11-2015, 10:34 AM	#2
el ess A Older Than Dirt Drives: 2010 & 2013 Camaros Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Aiken, SC Posts: 4,563	Don't fret. It won't be FOREVER. I get a notice from the state of SC almost every year because my classic insurance I have on some of my cars always forgets to notify them of coverage for my covered cars. The state has ALWAYS notified me that ~I~ needed to provide the proof to them by XX date or they would come and kill me (I exaggerate to clarify, but you get the idea). I'm thinking you may have had a notice sent to you from FL along those same lines and it was either lost in the mail or you don't recall getting one. But I don't recall as I haven't lived there in over 15 years now. One problem that you had is letting the dealer do the paperwork without you verifying the information. That's on you. If you have straightened it out with the state and they've reinstated your license because of the error, then they're acknowledging it was an error and simply corrected the mistake. If you have copies of the paperwork, hang on to them, and in nearly 3 years from now (or statutes of limitations), if you have any issues surrounding your "suspended" license, then simply sue the dealership for fugging up your livelihood. But I don't think it will be an issue. The way I see it, it's partially YOUR fault for not doing due diligence in ensuring the paperwork submitted was correct. Just calm down and Better Call Saul!!! __________________ 2010 2SS TE, 1 of 822/2013 Camaro ZL1 vert, 1 of 54

02-11-2015, 11:54 AM	#5
Pace Lifestyle = Deathstyle Drives: 11 SIM 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 686	If its a mistake by the dealer and you cleared it up with the DMV as mentioned above...then why would the DMV hold it against you? __________________ 11 2SS/RS

02-12-2015, 05:12 PM	#12
el ess A Older Than Dirt Drives: 2010 & 2013 Camaros Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Aiken, SC Posts: 4,563	In every case, no matter where or what state I bought a new car, I had the choice to either fill out my own paperwork for registration or let the dealer do it. I let the dealer do it the first time. Took forever and a day to get my registration. Never again. I ALWAYS did my own registration/DMV paperwork from then on. Only one way to get it right. Dealers normally do the paperwork as a courtesy, or part of the "doc fees" but you are under NO obligation to allow them to do the paperwork. Regardless of who does the paperwork in your behalf, YOU are the responsible party for ensuring the documentation is correct. It's this way in every legal proceeding I've ever been involved in. It's like your tax return. H&R Block may do it for you, but YOU are on the hook for whatever happens. And generally, when a mistake is made with paperwork, you have an opportunity to make it right. If you don't, then this won't be the last time they turn your over a barrel unannounced. SO...the rape has already occurred so you aren't going to get your virginity back on this, so hopefully, in the future, you take control of your own destiny and this way, you can make sure things don't go south again on a registration. __________________ 2010 2SS TE, 1 of 822/2013 Camaro ZL1 vert, 1 of 54

02-11-2015, 11:12 AM	#3
snarky ultracrepidarianism Drives: '14 1SS/RS/1LE/NPP '18 Accord Sport Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: where folks drive like shit Posts: 1,297

02-11-2015, 11:40 AM	#4
Sgtrod Drives: Camaro 1LE Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Miami Posts: 118	According to this logic.. If your engine fails, its your fault for taking the manufacturer's word for it and not inspecting. They do this everyday and now Im paying for their mistake. And the response made it worse. I keep my criminal record, credit history and driving record squeeky clean. Durring applications to work, I will always have to disclose the suspension. For going in and taking a car stickered at $47,400.. I earned a suspension? Yes, call Saul...but dont go to PHIL SMITH AUTOMOTIVE GROUP. Im not on here to get everyone to agree, simply to state my facts. If you do not agree, please post elsewhere.

02-11-2015, 11:59 AM	#6
Sgtrod Drives: Camaro 1LE Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Miami Posts: 118	Because I never got a notice which I agree is unussual...but as seen above...many people will dismiss that it was not my mistake and find a way to place blame.

02-11-2015, 12:02 PM	#8
Jakey2SS Drives: 15' Scat Pack Join Date: May 2014 Location: Fresno, Ca Posts: 281	God forbid another human being made what was probably an honest mistake, . People are so quick to start bashing others on social media.

02-12-2015, 03:47 PM	#9
JasonsEpicLife Drives: 2014 Camaro 2LS Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Wilton Manors, FL Posts: 26	Honestly Florida is the biggest hassle when it comes to stuff like this. I had a similar situation with my registration while moving back to Florida. The DMV allowed me register my car with GA insurance in FL and I asked was that ok and they were like yeah....2 months later they suspend my license and by that time I had everything switched over to FL. Of course I had to pay for someones mistake $170 but thats how Florida is no state tax so they get money in other ways!! As far as Phil Smith if you are talking about the one on 441 they were the ones that went to bat for me and got my Remote Start installed when GM said no...That dealership got everyone involved and I didn't even buy my Camaro from them. However, the first few people I dealt with there weren't so helpful. I spoke with a guy named Tom in service and he went out of his way to help me.

02-12-2015, 03:48 PM	#10
JasonsEpicLife Drives: 2014 Camaro 2LS Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Wilton Manors, FL Posts: 26	And are you sure it was the Dealership and not the DMV they screwed me big time and its sitting on my record and they let me ride around for 2 months before even sending me a letter

02-12-2015, 04:33 PM	#11
kgendron71 REDHOT_ZL1 Drives: 2014 Red Hot ZL1 M6 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Gainesville, Fl. Posts: 194	Your license was suspended because the dealer did what??? I'm really curious how exactly your licence was suspended by a dealers mistake.