I've ruined my 1LE......sorta kinda - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

canecorso69 · 12-10-2018, 01:15 PM

Truth be told at the end of the day I would've been better off getting an SS. I never had any real intentions of doing any road courses. I've been a 1/4 mile guy my whole life. So did I waste money buying the 1LE instead of an SS considering my intentions with this car and the way I've built this car? The way I see it the only positive is the 3:91 gears.

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SSEssence · 12-10-2018, 01:18 PM

Probably but you are right about the 3.91 gears being a plus, either way you built a badass car!

Billy10mm · 12-10-2018, 02:39 PM

Actually, you're wrong about the 3.91s being a plus. Because of the different gearing in the 1LE transmission, the 3.91 isn't any faster than rear gear in a standard manual SS.

Scroll down to the "Transmission Section" in the following URL:

https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/che...2014.tab1.html

Billy10mm · 12-10-2018, 02:46 PM

Calculating it out:

First gear is a 10.38 on the SS and a 10.40 on the 1LE. Tie
Second gear is a 7.14 on the SS and a 6.96 on the 1LE. Advantage SS
Third gear is a 4.93 on the SS and a 5.1 on the 1LE. Advantage 1LE
Fourth gear is a 3.45 on the SS and a 3.91 on the 1LE. Advantag 1LE
Fifth gear is a 2.90 on the SS and a 2.89 on the 1LE. Tie
Sixth gear is a 1.97 on the SS and a 1.96 on the 1LE. Tie

And none of the gears are a major advantage either way. The 3.91 was added to the 1LE to keep the acceleration similar to an SS given the ratio changes.d

CamaroDreams76 · 12-10-2018, 05:03 PM

Yeah u wasted money on it but who really cares. Seen your car in RPMs back storage room for a long time. Glad you finally got it back and can enjoy the new hp

SynergyGreenSS · 12-10-2018, 05:15 PM

Well I mean you did have the zl1 pump and beefier axles but you may have already replaced those for stronger parts

CamaroFred · 12-10-2018, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy10mm

Calculating it out:

First gear is a 10.38 on the SS and a 10.40 on the 1LE. Tie
Second gear is a 7.14 on the SS and a 6.96 on the 1LE. Advantage SS
Third gear is a 4.93 on the SS and a 5.1 on the 1LE. Advantage 1LE
Fourth gear is a 3.45 on the SS and a 3.91 on the 1LE. Advantag 1LE
Fifth gear is a 2.90 on the SS and a 2.89 on the 1LE. Tie
Sixth gear is a 1.97 on the SS and a 1.96 on the 1LE. Tie

And none of the gears are a major advantage either way. The 3.91 was added to the 1LE to keep the acceleration similar to an SS given the ratio changes.d

But if you put a 3.909 in an SS, or an SS trans in a 1LE:
1st 11.766 Advantage 13%
2nd 8.092 Advantage 16%
3rd 5.590 Advantage 10%
4th 3.909 Even
5th 3.284 Advantage 13%
6th 2.228 Advantage 14%

On the strip an SS with the 3.45 will hit 113MPH in 3rd@6600, eliminating a shift to 4th on stock power. I'm pretty sure that crossed the engineer's mind when deciding on the overall ratios.

The 1LE will reach 106MPH@6600 in 3rd. 109 with the slightly taller SS tires.

canecorso69 · 12-10-2018, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CamaroDreams76

Yeah u wasted money on it but who really cares. Seen your car in RPMs back storage room for a long time. Glad you finally got it back and can enjoy the new hp

Yeah they let me store my car there when I was building my new house. Awesome shop with great guys.

canecorso69 · 12-10-2018, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy10mm

Actually, you're wrong about the 3.91s being a plus. Because of the different gearing in the 1LE transmission, the 3.91 isn't any faster than rear gear in a standard manual SS.

Scroll down to the "Transmission Section" in the following URL:

https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/che...2014.tab1.html

I believe I have read the 1LE has to shift to 4th going through the lights where the SS can make it in 3rd gear. I plan to go with a TH400 in the very near future

Jayjellyfish212 · 12-10-2018, 10:24 PM

Yeah that 1LE is shot now ! Looks like you can give it to me .. hahaha.
Bad ass car brother and looks great.

102SS · 12-11-2018, 04:09 AM

Sweet looking ride

What does she run?

CamaroDreams76 · 12-11-2018, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by canecorso69

Yeah they let me store my car there when I was building my new house. Awesome shop with great guys.

I like watching their web series, it brings me back. I was born and raised in the Newark/Wilmington area which was 10 minutes away from their old shop.

I want them to do heads and cam on my car but I don't think I'm going to be driving it 20+ hours when I go up there in April.

1LE or not, your car and build is awesome.

canecorso69 · 12-11-2018, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroDreams76

I like watching their web series, it brings me back. I was born and raised in the Newark/Wilmington area which was 10 minutes away from their old shop.

I want them to do heads and cam on my car but I don't think I'm going to be driving it 20+ hours when I go up there in April.

1LE or not, your car and build is awesome.

Thanks man. Ive been using them since the old shop in Claymont. They come a long way since then.

canecorso69 · 12-11-2018, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayjellyfish212

Yeah that 1LE is shot now ! Looks like you can give it to me .. hahaha.
Bad ass car brother and looks great.

LOL, thanks man.

12-10-2018, 01:15 PM	#1
canecorso69 run ur car not ur mouth Drives: 2013 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Middletown, DE; Mayfield, NY Posts: 1,220	I've ruined my 1LE......sorta kinda Truth be told at the end of the day I would've been better off getting an SS. I never had any real intentions of doing any road courses. I've been a 1/4 mile guy my whole life. So did I waste money buying the 1LE instead of an SS considering my intentions with this car and the way I've built this car? The way I see it the only positive is the 3:91 gears. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk __________________ TSP headers, cat delete, x-pipe, atak, RPM custom cam and tune, Phfadt 1.25 springs, 15" Carlyle conversion, Nitrous Outlet, Procharger F1A-94, Meth inj

12-10-2018, 01:18 PM	#2
SSEssence Instagram: Sangstah Drives: 2019 Camaro 1LE Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Buena Park, CA. Posts: 2,803 View My Garage	Probably but you are right about the 3.91 gears being a plus, either way you built a badass car! __________________ 2019 SS 1LE - "CaSSandra" 2014 SS - "AleSSandra - Sold" 94 Z28 - Sold Follow the build https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=612717

12-10-2018, 02:39 PM	#3
Billy10mm Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS 1LE NPP Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Hartsdale, NY Posts: 1,434	Actually, you're wrong about the 3.91s being a plus. Because of the different gearing in the 1LE transmission, the 3.91 isn't any faster than rear gear in a standard manual SS. Scroll down to the "Transmission Section" in the following URL: https://media.gm.com/media/us/en/che...2014.tab1.html __________________ My thoughts on some things: Driving Nannies: If I'm that far out of shape on the street, something has gone terribly wrong and by all means Mr. Computer man, come and get me. G2s: Rock throwing is like like a tramp stamp; although problematic, it's a sign of good things to come.

12-10-2018, 02:46 PM	#4
Billy10mm Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS 1LE NPP Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Hartsdale, NY Posts: 1,434	Calculating it out: First gear is a 10.38 on the SS and a 10.40 on the 1LE. Tie Second gear is a 7.14 on the SS and a 6.96 on the 1LE. Advantage SS Third gear is a 4.93 on the SS and a 5.1 on the 1LE. Advantage 1LE Fourth gear is a 3.45 on the SS and a 3.91 on the 1LE. Advantag 1LE Fifth gear is a 2.90 on the SS and a 2.89 on the 1LE. Tie Sixth gear is a 1.97 on the SS and a 1.96 on the 1LE. Tie And none of the gears are a major advantage either way. The 3.91 was added to the 1LE to keep the acceleration similar to an SS given the ratio changes.d __________________ My thoughts on some things: Driving Nannies: If I'm that far out of shape on the street, something has gone terribly wrong and by all means Mr. Computer man, come and get me. G2s: Rock throwing is like like a tramp stamp; although problematic, it's a sign of good things to come.

12-10-2018, 05:03 PM	#5
CamaroDreams76 Tri-County Camaro SWFL Drives: 2013 IOM 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: South West FL Posts: 3,082 View My Garage	Yeah u wasted money on it but who really cares. Seen your car in RPMs back storage room for a long time. Glad you finally got it back and can enjoy the new hp __________________ Just bolt ons........ https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343023

12-10-2018, 05:15 PM	#6
SynergyGreenSS Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 1,333	Well I mean you did have the zl1 pump and beefier axles but you may have already replaced those for stronger parts __________________ 2011 SS L99 LSA Supercharger, BTR Stage 3 PDS Cam, Yank 3200SS, Weapon X Stage 2 intake, LSA Heads, Flex Fuel, Ported throttle body, Speed Engineering Headers, NOWEEDS, ZL1 fuel pump, DSX AUX Pump, ID-1050X injectors, 3” pipe to NPP mufflers, 3.91 gears

12-10-2018, 10:24 PM	#10
Jayjellyfish212 Drives: 2014 1LE Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,050 View My Garage	Yeah that 1LE is shot now ! Looks like you can give it to me .. hahaha. Bad ass car brother and looks great. __________________ Car mods: never enough!

12-11-2018, 04:09 AM	#11
102SS waiting at the tree Drives: SIM 2010 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Niagara Falls Posts: 3,152	Sweet looking ride What does she run? __________________ 2010 2SS/RS A6 ZL1 Rims 60ft 2.03 13.08 at 107.82 (4/28) 2009 Pontiac G8 3.6L the DD