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rally yellow ss rs · 12-03-2010, 04:32 AM

Doesnt a tune void the warranty?

Ron66Vette&10SS · 12-03-2010, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rally yellow ss rs

Doesnt a tune void the warranty?

Yes, if detected a tune voids the drivetrain warranty.

Supposedly GM can detect if a tune was installed even if the stock tune is reinstalled.

Duke · 12-03-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron66Vette&10SS

Yes, if detected a tune voids the drivetrain warranty.

Supposedly GM can detect if a tune was installed even if the stock tune is reinstalled.

oh lord, here we go.

Lets just leave it at that.

TM for the L99 pulls timing during the shift to reduce torque. This is done in hte TCM

Ron66Vette&10SS · 12-03-2010, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Duke

oh lord, here we go.

Lets just leave it at that.

Yup, that's why I did "leave it at that".

axis · 12-03-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rally yellow ss rs

Doesnt a tune void the warranty?

This thread isn't about voiding your warranty. There are 12 gazzillion other threads on what may or may not void your warranty.

hoffmk2003 · 12-04-2010, 07:57 AM

this is for those who don't care about their warrenty

SGOS252382 · 12-04-2010, 08:32 AM

For an L99, a tune is probably the best bang for the buck mod. It completely changes the way the car drives. On average, most guys will see .2-.3 sec improvement at the track from just a tune. You'll also feel that extra 30+ ft lbs of torque when driving around on the street. A good tune does wonders in the torque department.
My tune showed a solid 30+ ft lbs of torque around 4500 rpms (right where you'd want it).
A tune also crisps up the shifts and just makes the car more fun to drive.

Staying stock is cool (for the guys that want a 100% warrantied car). But for most of us, that's not what owning a Camaro SS is all about. Its about modding our cars and enjoying them. The L99 also desperately needs to be tuned. GM left too much on the table with the L99's tuning.

BowlingSS · 12-07-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by axis

That's exactly what Hoff's screen shots show. It's not gear based, but RPM based. Doesn't matter what gear, as long as you're under 3k rpm. After the 3K rpm mark, TM is off.

Here is a screen shot of the table Torque Limits Per Gear in EFILive.

BowlingSS · 12-07-2010, 11:01 AM

Does anyone have an EFILive tune for an 2011 L99 that the TM was reduced?

Bill

mtbikerinme83 · 12-07-2010, 11:20 AM

I would really like to see someone dyno a stock LS3 starting the pull at around 1800 to 2000 RPM. That way we have a good baseline of what the low end torqe is below 3k RPM where torqe management is in effect. Then have the same car tuned, removing torqe management, and running it on the dyno again starting at around 1800 to 2000 RPM. This would show us how much us LS3 guys gain from removing TM.

hoffmk2003 · 12-07-2010, 01:42 PM

look at page 1 and 2 plenty of dyno graphs to chose from. I have my stock dyno graph and I'll post my modded one in the spring so you will just have to wait lol

Ken

12-04-2010, 07:57 AM	#48
hoffmk2003 The Hof Drives: 2010 IOM Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jamestown, RI Posts: 825	this is for those who don't care about their warrenty __________________ #6 Bolt on Fast List...best ET 12.01@117 mph http://www.streetfire.net/video/best...ro_2240734.htm

12-07-2010, 11:01 AM	#51
BowlingSS Camaro Owner Since 1987 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS L99 RJT Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Posts: 2,185	Does anyone have an EFILive tune for an 2011 L99 that the TM was reduced? Bill __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 RJT CAI, Inc. Cold Air Induction;ADM Scoop Rx Catch Can;Rx Breather;Roto-Fab Washer Container VMax Ported RJT Throttle Body XSPower Headers and XSPower 3" Exhaust System Elite Engineering Tunnel Brace, Gorilla Wheel Lock System; Bear Rotors, Hawk HPS Tinted Windows 35%;EFILive Tune

12-07-2010, 11:20 AM	#52
mtbikerinme83 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3-M6 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Standish, Maine Posts: 135	I would really like to see someone dyno a stock LS3 starting the pull at around 1800 to 2000 RPM. That way we have a good baseline of what the low end torqe is below 3k RPM where torqe management is in effect. Then have the same car tuned, removing torqe management, and running it on the dyno again starting at around 1800 to 2000 RPM. This would show us how much us LS3 guys gain from removing TM. __________________ Currently: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS GFX LS3-M6, 3.91 1LE diff, Kooks LTH w/ cats, Borla Touring axel back, CAI intake with race scoop, and custom dyno tune Previously: 2010 IBM 2SS LS3-M6 CAI intake with JRE race scoop, VMax TB, Solo HF Catted Mid pipes, and JRE SCT tune

12-07-2010, 01:42 PM	#53
hoffmk2003 The Hof Drives: 2010 IOM Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Jamestown, RI Posts: 825	look at page 1 and 2 plenty of dyno graphs to chose from. I have my stock dyno graph and I'll post my modded one in the spring so you will just have to wait lol Ken __________________ #6 Bolt on Fast List...best ET 12.01@117 mph http://www.streetfire.net/video/best...ro_2240734.htm

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12-04-2010, 08:32 AM	#49
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,294	For an L99, a tune is probably the best bang for the buck mod. It completely changes the way the car drives. On average, most guys will see .2-.3 sec improvement at the track from just a tune. You'll also feel that extra 30+ ft lbs of torque when driving around on the street. A good tune does wonders in the torque department. My tune showed a solid 30+ ft lbs of torque around 4500 rpms (right where you'd want it). A tune also crisps up the shifts and just makes the car more fun to drive. Staying stock is cool (for the guys that want a 100% warrantied car). But for most of us, that's not what owning a Camaro SS is all about. Its about modding our cars and enjoying them. The L99 also desperately needs to be tuned. GM left too much on the table with the L99's tuning.